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Post by Maxx on 23.11.13 10:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21zidDPO_XM
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Post by Maxx on 23.11.13 18:23

At the end of that presentation Hancock mentions this book by Rick Strassman.....and here is a description of his research.....opens up possibilities in many areas about our ancient past.....

From 1990 to 1995 Dr. Rick Strassman conducted DEA-approved clinical research at the University of New Mexico in which he injected sixty volunteers with DMT, one of the most powerful psychedelics known. His detailed account of those sessions is an extraordinarily riveting inquiry into the nature of the human mind and the therapeutic potential of psychedelics. DMT, a plant-derived chemical that is also manufactured by the human brain, consistently produced near-death and mystical experiences. Many volunteers reported convincing encounters with intelligent nonhuman presences, especially “aliens.” Nearly all felt that the sessions were among the most profound experiences of their lives.

Strassman’s research connects DMT with the pineal gland, considered by Hindus to be the site of the seventh chakra and by René Descartes to be the seat of the soul. DMT: The Spirit Molecule makes the bold case that DMT, naturally released by the pineal gland, facilitates the soul’s movement in and out of the body and is an integral part of the birth and death experiences, as well as the highest states of meditation and even sexual transcendence. Strassman also believes that alien abduction experiences are brought on by accidental releases of DMT. If used wisely, DMT could trigger a period of remarkable progress in the scientific exploration of the most mystical regions of the human mind and soul.
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Post by 8lou1 on 24.11.13 3:38

what is wisely and to whom?

and maybe a strange question, but why not try it yourself instead of reading about it?

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Post by Stapleraindrop on 24.11.13 7:10

If I am not wrong the extreme experiences that most have with their first use of DMT is related to the decalcification of their pineal gland. I can attest to the fact that hallucinogens can definitely affect the brain in such a way that after the hallucination, your worldview has the potential to change drastically. In my case however, it was cannabis and salvia divonorum that did the trick, not DMT. It is interesting to note that many native tribes call salvia diviner's sage.

For all interested, Andrew Weil has an amazing book on this; The natural mind: investigation of drugs and the higher consciousness
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Post by Maxx on 24.11.13 7:58

what I found most interesting was the statement where the two of them said that all the ancient cave art was a result of the use of mushroom, DMT, hallucinogens, etc. showing the experience with other worlds and beings.  Shamans using these made the transition into the other realm.  Also, many others making contact with that world in a profound fashion have had head injuries and at that point began a more intense connection, although Hancock never brought that up.  

Personally, I believe that a dedicated method of practice and work may possibly enable one to come close to this type of result, but it would also depend as much on as many factors as there seems to be personalities.  I have come to my own conclusion for myself that all these doors are chosen to some extent before ever entering this world.  To a large extent the free choice is made before being born....
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Post by 8lou1 on 24.11.13 8:34

funny you mention head injuries....havent been on that road for a while...must be the dmt overdosis i took..

and indeed free choice...seems i made some strange choices....

i dont have a long attentionspan, so i find it hard to watch the whole movie. i do have on the other hand a long experience with hallucinogenics. ( seems the two are interrelated Rolling Eyes  ) for me thats a good outcome even though im still learning to handle it, so to speak...

what i can say about using 'drugs' is that even though one uses it in a safe surrounding, you still have to go tru old rubbish and pain on your own and no way of stopping it because the 'drugs' are in charge and lead the way... thats why i would rather suggest natural drugs over synthetic ones.

also one easily looses one power to protect the body and easily gets infested with all kinds of spiritual parasites. which the western society doesnt know how to deal with, other then put you in a psychiatric ward...




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Post by Maxx on 24.11.13 8:59

You have just confirmed a recent observation of mine. It is the fact that each of us come from a different reality base which is going to reflect how we interact and how our views are formed about everything.  That means there are as many different outcomes as there are as many different interactions because every final situation will be based on different experiences to reach that conclusion.  Where this originates will connect with each ego.......and will reflect, whether we like it or not, how every one will see the same thing as very different....hence disagreements, solutions, reflecting our own personal evolution either upward or downward......wow......each of us were born to effect an experience very different from the other.
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Post by 8lou1 on 24.11.13 9:13

doesnt it look beautiful Wink

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Post by 8lou1 on 24.11.13 9:46

you say spiritual evolution up or down wards.

but can there really be such a thing? we are traveling tru space with no up and down.

and you also say everyone sees things differently, so your up could be my down and vice versa. wich makes it look more like this imo


to make it more worldy:
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Post by Stapleraindrop on 24.11.13 9:49

Maxx, I see drugs like DMT as more of a gateway into the spiritual side of life, whether they were intended to be such or if it happened by accident. They still have the potential to be abused and to damage the body and mind. Having said that, I still plan on taking a dose of mushrooms and playing a game of dungeons and dragons with friends in the near future XD
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Post by Maxx on 24.11.13 9:56

they say that DMT is formed naturally. That is why I believe that everything one can accomplish with the use of drugs can be done naturally without them ....... with a little work.
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Post by 8lou1 on 24.11.13 10:09

it is naturally formed in your brain and in grass for example. which is why it is so strange they made it illegal. seems using your brain makes one illegal...

and i also believe everything can be done without the use of drugs. it just depends on what needs to be done in how much amount of time. at least in my case. i was a bit in a hurry Wink
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Post by Stapleraindrop on 24.11.13 18:28

They certainly function as an effective 'kickstart' to spirituality though
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Post by 8lou1 on 27.11.13 6:41

maxx, especially for you Smile

a scene from the movie blueberry....
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Post by Maxx on 27.11.13 21:41

thanks lou....but that does not look my bag....lol.
Displays total confusion and I prefer other ways....although I can see why some of a different mindset than myself might walk into something like this.....
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Post by 8lou1 on 28.11.13 4:51

just like i never would use your energy tools... but i can understand why it is of benefit to others...


im sorry, im a bit corny today...
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Post by Stapleraindrop on 28.11.13 5:38

Never use energy tools? Are you high lou???
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Post by Maxx on 28.11.13 8:09

I am sorry but I cannot understand the higher realms. I have never been able to connect to the Disney groups.  I never understand what the songs are saying and do not understand the higher teachings within that structure.  I am just a plain, simple guy.  But I do understand how James Van Praagh is connecting to the other side....He is not using DMT or watching the Wizards of Waverly tuning into Disney......lol.   Now....Goofy is another story.....He is special.
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Post by Maxx on 28.11.13 8:21

To Lou......behind the clouds the Sun still shines.....Smile 

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Post by Maxx on 28.11.13 8:33

Illustrates ......   it is all in how you say it......so say it with laughter and you can get by saying anything..

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Post by 8lou1 on 28.11.13 8:39

nah im not 'high', more earthly to say the least.. i just listen to the words and take them out of context....

concerning energytools: even reiki was my enemy for a while...

and now indeed i just live for as much as possible...
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Post by 8lou1 on 28.11.13 8:40

a clean heart makes up more then a thousand smiles...Cool 
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Post by Maxx on 28.11.13 9:07

probably......

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Post by 8lou1 on 28.11.13 9:30

mum-in-law obama......
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Post by Maxx on 28.11.13 11:06

Graham Hancock never dreamed he would be introduced such as this.  

While all this was taking place with these videos, I watched as the number of guests went from 6 to over 37.  Shows me you people are sick, sick, sick.  

Soon, Victor, Jonathan, Maktub, and others are going to come in here and begin posting educational material on the Aset Ka and you will learn some very, very interesting things.......so all of you guests might as well go a head and sign up for this forum so you can interact and comment.  We see you anyway when you click in here.....and chickens, sooner or later click in on someone's table.....let it not be you.
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