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Post by Maxx on 15.12.13 10:42

Sorry to burst your bubble but that is why each individual has to open up the ability to go within and find what is true and what is untrue. No professor teaches the absolute. They only put one in the direction to consider. One needs to learn from the Higher Self that is always in contact with you. That teacher is worth getting to know.
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Post by Maxx on 15.12.13 12:02

Also, you are welcome to glean or contribute to the forum.  But a first post in Romanian on an English language format indicates you have not read much of what is posted. Trying to create an aura of mystique about yourself and trying to indicate a vampire background is not advisable here. That tends to connect to gamer storyland.  You may be better suited for Father Sabastian's group than here but he says he cannot learn another language outside of English.  There are good translation products out there though.

But you are certainly welcome here if you take stock of where you are and join in with a more realistic approach.  Your choice.
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Post by Kalb on 15.12.13 13:01

Maxx:A friend of mine told me this...

"That user from VF, 'intuneric', is not Romanian. What he/she posted very much looks to me like it's just a failed attempt at using a translator to post something in Romanian and 'look cool', from the way it looks."

"The diacritics that person used... they're something not even us native Romanians often use. And if we do, then we certainly care about the spelling/grammar as well. And that post has anything but."
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Post by Maxx on 15.12.13 13:07

thanks kalb, just as I suspected. He never read anything here to see the attitude about this group. And what he posted for the first post did not apply very much to the subject matter. Thanks to your friend for confirming it.
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Post by Konrad Curze on 16.12.13 0:48

Thank you Victor for your post, it shed some light regarding Sebastian wich I suspected, but could not confirm.
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Post by Jonathan on 16.12.13 6:00

Konrad Curze wrote:Thank you Victor for your post, it shed some light regarding Sebastian wich I suspected, but could not confirm.
It appears to be your first post in this forum so welcome.
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Post by Nightshade on 16.12.13 7:54

Victor wrote:Well I must say that there is nothing illegal about a violet book, even if it's obvious that it was meant to draw connections with the Aset Ka.

Surely not illegal but ironic how before the Aset Ka there were no connections between vampires and violet, it was all black black black, and after people reading about the Violet Flame and the symbolism of violet in the Asetian Bible now these people say vampires have violet auras, violet magick and purple veils. It's Asetian symbolism being misunderstood and misrepresented all over again, as we find in many other details in history past and present. The cover of Vampyre Mysteries The Purple Veils, like many other things in Father Sebastiaan, is an obvious attempt at luring readers of the Asetian Bible and students of the tradition of the Aset Ka. Just like the meta tags on Kheperu.org website of House Kheperu still include the words Asetian, Asetian Bible and Aset Ka. The influence of the Aset Ka is everywhere and anyone awaken and aware can see it.

If others remain in denial even when facing verifiable facts then that shouldn't be any of our concern. People are free even if that means freedom to be blind and ignorant.
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Post by Victor on 16.12.13 18:43

Nightshade wrote:If others remain in denial even when facing verifiable facts then that shouldn't be any of our concern. People are free even if that means freedom to be blind and ignorant.
That is one true statement. In your life you will learn that many are afraid of facts, afraid of truth, even afraid of freedom. Ignorance is a safe haven to many out there. I say let them be safe, leave the danger to us who can handle it.
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Post by Nightshade on 19.12.13 12:19

One thing I noticed by following this thread and links to other external articles is that so many people in the vampire community complain about Todd Sebastiaan and the scams of the Sanguinarium but most do it in veiled form while they still attend his Endless Night events, purchase his fangs and use his public exposure to appear in photos and superficial media coverage. That only shows that many of the people condemning him aren't much better either as they rely on him as vehicle of ego and exposure while insulting him on his back. People do that all the time with other figures in the community who seek the spotlight and anyone observing their movement can see this. That's one of the things that appealed to me so much about the Asetianist community and those who follow the Aset Ka tradition as people don't seem to be afraid to speak their mind and will not ally with fakes and pretenders just to look good or be featured in the media. The way I see it those who identify with the Asetians don't care for exposure, treasure their privacy and would never lower their standards just for show off or to appear in a magazine or TV. I applaud this community for that!
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Post by Jonathan on 21.12.13 11:20

Nightshade wrote:That's one of the things that appealed to me so much about the Asetianist community and those who follow the Aset Ka tradition as people don't seem to be afraid to speak their mind and will not ally with fakes and pretenders just to look good or be featured in the media. The way I see it those who identify with the Asetians don't care for exposure, treasure their privacy and would never lower their standards just for show off or to appear in a magazine or TV. I applaud this community for that!

I couldn't have said it any better!

Some may not notice this but I believe the Book of Orion was instrumental in guiding the community and setting a higher standard of attitude and ideals for vampires and occultists alike even more so than the actual Asetian Bible.

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Post by Morgana on 29.09.14 12:05

Hello: Smile
I know this thread is a bit old, however, being new to this forum, i'd like to thank everyone who posted in this thread.  It has been very helpful.  I joined this forum to find information and to be somewhat connected to the community.  As a witch of a few decades, i am inquisitive and skeptical sometimes with people that declare themselves authority of anything.  I have read F. S. initial book and have found it wanting of real depth.  Don't get me wrong, there are interesting aspects to it, but it felt "hollow".  Of course, I am NO authority in ANY vampire community and my witchy senses are far from objective, however I came here searching for some real information or background that is not staged, of this author and entrepreneur.   Within this thread, I have found information I was searching for.   Very Happy

I will continue with my scholarly journey to find knowledge that I feel is important to my path. And most definitely read Luis Marques works.

i am grateful to you all and hope to be able to participate a bit more in this community.  Although, more of a wall flower than a social butterfly, I might just be haunting the site a bit more, before actually posting much.

Many bright blessings,
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Post by Jonathan on 29.09.14 12:15

Welcome to the community Morgana. Smile

What witchcraft traditions do you work with?
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Post by Kalb on 29.09.14 12:19

Welcome, Morgana. Smile
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Post by Maxx on 29.09.14 12:35

We are happy you have decided to join us. Enjoy.
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Post by Morgana on 29.09.14 13:17

Jonathan wrote:Welcome to the community Morgana. Smile

What witchcraft traditions do you work with?

Hello:
Thank you for the welcome! Very Happy
I am a Wiccan High Priestess (although not really fond of titles or labels) so just a witch is fine by me:) I have studied kabbalah, many forms of Wicca, Witchcraft, Druidism, High Magick, some African Traditions (based mostly in the caribbean) and currently a part of a few witchcraft communities.

Although I have officiated many rituals and ceremonies over the past decade, I am for the most part a solitary practitioner at the moment. I am an inquisitive scholar and have also studied many forms of magick, religion, anthropology and other throughout the past 20 years.

I appreciate the welcome and look forward to continuing my journey...
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Re: Father Sebastiaan copying Aset Ka again

Post by Morgana on 29.09.14 13:19

Thank you Kalb and Maxx!
Very Happy
I look forward to getting to know some of you soon.
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Re: Father Sebastiaan copying Aset Ka again

Post by Rhea Kaye on 02.09.18 15:49

This is quite a relevant thread to the community. I know it's really old, but it also served a valuable purpose to me over the past, when I was trying to learn more about different paths and where they came from. I like that some people are not afraid to state things for what they are.

Jonathan wrote:Same old scams over and over. It was also noticed by other Asetianists that Sebastiaan deletes comments of people asking about the Aset Ka or Asetianism from his websites and forums in a way to silence anything about these teachings, and in situations when deleting content is not an option he dismisses it as "Harry Potter nonsense". Is that the way to describe the source where you draw your inspiration and ideas Mr. Todd Hoyt? I think not.

Some things never really change. That Purple Veils book was extremely interesting to me at one point in time, not due to its contents but instead because of the blatant mimicry of the Asetian Bible. Nowadays, he actually gives out lectures on his books, and in the newest one he mentions the Aset Ka. This time he does not dismiss or try to silence the Kemetic Order, but instead speaks of them in a very light way after stating that he likes to acknowledge other traditions. (Lol).  

The Violet Throne has emerged as an incredibly potent tool, and one thing I particularly like about it is the approach of Psychology and how it can be applied analytically to the most prominent and loud minds on many public vampire groups. The whole "current of Elorath" really sings in such an elegant manner, and I do not, of course, mean that it is a tradition to be taken seriously, but it is in fact an elegant and succinct confirmation of these psychologically related teachings of Luis Marques. It is a confirmation of everything they speak of about the common mind in a sea of humanity. It does a service to the Asetian teachings, this baseless (Eternal Lord Our Reagent Aaron Todd Hoyt-ELORATH) "magical system", because it allows for observation to take place and give way to a true understanding of how the mind reacts to things it feels threatened by, will never comprehend, or simply desires to be exactly like without the effort of evolution and inner mastery.

To this very day, Sebastiaan copies the Aset Ka. Years ago, when this thread was created, it was a purple book with a
vividly violet background and a bastardized travesty of a modified ankh in the center, an inelegant imitation of a powerful, timeless sigil upon the legendary work of Luis Marques that changed many people forever. Now, in 2018, the colors have reversed, EXACTLY the same way as what happened with the Violet Throne. Of course, when it comes to the Asetians there is a reason for everything they do, and I do not believe the colors were changed simply for the aesthetic appeal. Todd's instagram account reveals that an "internal edition" is going on sale soon for the "Sabretooths" of his clan.... "The Black Veils- Elorathian Magick Book One- Coming Forth By Day." Without such a powerful Sigil as the Dark Mark, he had to improvise and now we see an ouroboros surrounding their roleplaying bladed ankh. Of course, the color scheme is violet, on a backdrop of complete blackness. I wonder where they first saw that from? Wink Wink  

We can see from some of his most avid and imbalanced followers a fervent fixation upon the concepts of loyalty and family as well... which I do not believe was original and unique to him in any fashion. Once again copying fails to translate the deepest current behind the teachings of the Asetians who were mimicked. I do not believe any soul that would praise frauds, use them as means to gain more public exposure, or latch to them out of loneliness and uncertainty would be remotely capable of understanding what things like family and loyalty even mean, as it is impossible to trust people who haven't conquered their own desire for the spotlight and superficiality.

These things have long been exposed and this is nothing new, being recent actions on a foundation of the same dishonorable intentions of shallow copying, but I thought it might be a valuable thing to mention anyway.  I have wondered ever since the release of the Violet Throne if more visual elements of it would be copied in any way, and when. The proof now lies right before our eyes, easily accessible.

Hail Elorath. jocolor
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Post by Jonathan on 02.09.18 17:24

Hail Elorath! jocolor

Everyone knows that Sebastiaan (Todd Hoyt) is a Luis Marques wannabe. He's an admirer of Marques' work and legacy, someone who wanted to be him. That transpires in all of his work since he first appeared in the nineties.

Actually, take a serious and analytical look at his followers. Wink You find among those ranks people who desperately wanted to be Asetians or be recognized as a real member of the Aset Ka.

I've once read someone stating that Sabretooth or Strigoi Vii is like fast food for those that can't afford more elegant and nutritious gastronomy, like Asetianism and the more profound paths of occult tradition. Of course by "afford" I believe they were mentioning intellect and spiritual growth.
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Post by A.Nightside on 06.09.18 20:40

Not sure if I've done so already, but I'd like to share this here. It's a bit old, so potentially outdated, but I feel it's fitting in this thread.

https://savampyrenews.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/the-obfuscation-of-father-sebastiaan-inc-an-illuminating-investigation-for-the-vampiyre-community-by-octarine-valur/
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