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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 04.02.14 6:20

Greetings to all. I am new here. My desire is to share in knowledge, scrupulous form, and find certain Community; I have been observing your site for a while, and read many a few articles, I am interested in the learning of new paths of spirituality and a knowledge-sharing forum. I have been a kind of mystic for a while, praying, seeking God, dwelling in my ówn psyche, formerly a year ago meditatin often and getting into mystical states; and have successfully overcome schizophrenia, but thanks to all the help that I have had, yet not me but Source energy which is benevolent and kind - thanks to God - thoughts are generators of Power also, a good directed thought or prayer can result in the radius aura of a blessing, and enhancemnet, cleansing, fulfilling, and harmonizing. Anyhow, now I do not know if I make the right approach concerning you, if I am in the right forum come or not, but anyhow I can take teaching from you and find certain Community, lasting as long as it wills to last, perhaps a foolish reason for to come here but a sustaining one.

One question, what do you Think of God, or source energy, or reality, or reality as an objective existence, holding Everything together, in a onesss withal? And another question, vampirism concerned, what would be the inclusion to this subject of certain categories?

Anyhow, I bless you all, and thank you for whatever answers you may come up with.

O, and Before similarity to schizophrenia occured to me, I used to be very sensitive to energies. Energy works I would practice, albait uncarefully, that perhaps it caused or shaked the Foundation to give cause to this insanity. I used to have a mental shift or turning on of a nearly lycanthropic behaviour, almost as that mentioned in the otherkin communities I have scrolled over, and a more vampiric or lycanthropic mannerism, although since a time all of that is out of my nervous systems as by a blessing, and as the distillment of a curse as if it were the cause to it, or a blessing unfolded from one dark flower into more colourful flowers with their fragrance. So my allegiance is to the Lord Jesus Christ, and my loyalty is set, so perhaps this is not the right path for me, but I have been a Little interested in it, therefore I come hereon, to discuss and talk, what are your thoughts upon this? How, for example, if you look at the christian World, the God of Israel, and then at Aset, and vampirism, any correlation exist thereinbetween them at all, or are they as two distinctly separate Worlds? Or would you say, per say, that perhaps Aset is as a divine principle, similar to that of a divine mother, as that of hinduism? No, I have not read the asetian bible, but do you recommend it to me? Vampirism I do not know of, and magic I turn into prayer, and even more so magic, I turn into sweet good mysticality and insanity perhaps. What would happen if God's kingdom coincided with vampires or asetians, would there be a Clash, or an innocent harmony? This is a thought that arises out of the current lake of thought - not ocean, for the moment, I have yet to let many flows of rivers fill a large sea from my present state into better sanity and coherence of thought. And as per say, that a suspicion is that vampires can be religious, as they are connected to the spiritual World, would they not have to be rather saintly to persist with such practice to travel the stairway of goodness into reality? Will you enlighten me, and bring forht rivers? I am slightly interested in energy work, and the research of knowledge, and the vampiric tradition I am slightly at hand with? And did the asetian still linger in Egypt during the exodus of the israelites or jews, or left long Before that?

Anyhow, I wish you well. My greetings, as new hereto.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 04.02.14 6:26

With fortitude great things may be mustered up, and with the light all things are possible.
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Post by Kalb on 04.02.14 7:11

Hello,

All your questions will be resolved when you start to study and have an open mind. All your question are available on the internet.. There are thousands of website about history, religion and human manipulation.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 04.02.14 7:35

I thank you. Yes, whenever I have a question, scrolling this forum, the answer usually appears. It has appeared similarily, now, a few questions answered already. It is as the direction of certain force in a beautiful cohesive pattern; emalgating all thoughts, questions, into answers directly; wherefore I see, the idea of evolution, hereto in application, fully expanding.
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Post by Maxx on 04.02.14 12:03

Greetings and welcome to the forum.   You just barely were allowed entry here as there is a law that says the name you use cannot hold more total letters  than the English alphabet combined.  You just barely made it through the front gate.  Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by Jonathan on 05.02.14 2:46

You ask about Aset and god, Jesus and vampirism. Asetianism is much older than Jesus or "god", but you didn't need to ask that to know the answer. It's just basic history.

Welcome to the community.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 05.02.14 3:27

Yes, I see. Thank you for the answer. It was an unfound question by me; it was clear to me, as the books of history upon it sheds light. I need to develop a lot at first. I have been into a many religious rumination. I am not absolutely certain if this is the right path for me, but I am taking a pause from christianity - I have been serving it by prayer, wishing to strengthen it, now I am trying to regain my own life. Perhaps I should read up on vampirism or take advice to or not, teaching therefrom, anyhow the teaching is valueable. What do you say about this, Jonathan, about the overal situation? As I have heard, it can be dangerous, but with an open mind and a disciplined heart, much is albait possible and the navies anchored at shore.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 05.02.14 3:30

And thank you for the welcome. Hmm... Introductory concepts, and teaching; book reading ahead. I can see the reply must be similarily recommending, if I am truely sincere and honest. Although I can read up on asetianism simply for the knowledge thereof, I am not sure about it. What are the concepts of eternal life in vampirism, afterlife, etc., and that of humans compared?
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Post by Divine 277 on 05.02.14 5:48

Hello and welcome Smile

In general it is about reincarnation, to talk about it lightly Smile
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Post by Jonathan on 05.02.14 10:34

MysticLightShinethForth wrote:Perhaps I should read up on vampirism or take advice to or not, teaching therefrom, anyhow the teaching is valueable. What do you say about this, Jonathan, about the overal situation? As I have heard, it can be dangerous, but with an open mind and a disciplined heart, much is albait possible and the navies anchored at shore.

I think you should learn about it and reach your own conclusions if you find it to be truthful or not. What we can tell you would be our views and interpretations but you should find your own. I want to add however that Asetianism is not really a religion but more of a spiritual culture and way of life.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 05.02.14 13:08

How has the Culture of it survived, and prolonged its existence, through eternal bonds? And how does it flourish, springing forth anew, with the release of the books of Luiz Marques?
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 05.02.14 13:09

How the culture is flourishing essentially.
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Post by Stapleraindrop on 05.02.14 14:35

The internet vampire culture isn't exactly flourishing. Father Sebby sure is a thorn that won't let that flower grow.
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Post by Maxx on 05.02.14 18:06

MysticLightShinethForth wrote:

1.One question, what do you Think of God, or source energy, or reality, or reality as an objective existence, holding Everything together, in a onesss withal? And another question, vampirism concerned, what would be the inclusion to this subject of certain categories?

2. So my allegiance is to the Lord Jesus Christ, and my loyalty is set, so perhaps this is not the right path for me, but I have been a Little interested in it, therefore I come hereon, to discuss and talk, what are your thoughts upon this?


3.How, for example, if you look at the christian World, the God of Israel, and then at Aset, and vampirism, any correlation exist thereinbetween them at all, or are they as two distinctly separate Worlds?


4.No, I have not read the asetian bible, but do you recommend it to me? Vampirism I do not know of, and magic I turn into prayer, and even more so magic, I turn into sweet good mysticality and insanity perhaps.


5.What would happen if God's kingdom coincided with vampires or asetians, would there be a Clash,

6. And as per say, that a suspicion is that vampires can be religious, as they are connected to the spiritual World, would they not have to be rather saintly to persist with such practice to travel the stairway of goodness into reality? .

1,  As you know, everything appears to be connected....everything is constant energy in motion.....Does not that connect to the Source itself?
That would include vampirism, gaseous, liquid, emotions, thoughts...yes, material you see is nothing but frozen thought.

2. Everyone is connected to a basis which they want to experience as  real whether it is for physical or emotional satisfaction to explain their reason for being here.  Most need the assurance there is a purpose for that which they connect to.....making it higher than themselves so they do not have to take final responsibility for themselves.

3.  I believe you will find the connection and how they interact with each other in history once you begin a serious study of this question. I think you will be completely surprised at what you will find.

4. Of course.  This will enlighten you and help you see between some lines...etc.   It will open your being to an element you never knew of previously or even knew of....  Magic.....is unknown to many.....but REAL Magic is something entirely different.  If you find an interest after reading the Asetian Bible your concept of Magic will compel you study more of the secrets of the Universe.

5.  Why a clash...?  All that exists now as we speak.  Nothing changes.  We each do our part to compliment the whole. Individual and group.  Even when one side swings too far towards control.....the world will always swing back to compensate and find balance of its own accord.
This planet is designed for dual operation.

6.  We come into this world in a physical body....(most of us, anyway)...that means we come to overcome FEAR and learn how to cope with EMOTIONS.  We each have a unique personality so wouldn't you agree if you were in touch with 10 vampires, they would all have different likes and dislikes per each personality?  Why lump everything into one enclosure?  That would include religious likes or dislikes, as well as different abilities.   You might say many paths will intersect at a unique nexus and branch off again as the path is traveled on again from there.  Then those many paths with come again together in another nexus point that will have an impact on everyone, then branch out again, etc.  There is neither saint nor sinner.  For if one is involved with some action, does that not interact on another, which in turn will interact on another and so forth.  Does not the first one compel that second person to react in some way and therefore open a choice or decision to walk in a certain way.  But whether it chooses a saintly act or path or a sinful path, depends on who is watching it from their viewpoint.  Remember, our universe is created as a dual operation so the push, pull factor will always operate here.  There are other universes that are constructed in quads, double threes, etc.....but that is for another world....

Welcome to this world....there is much to look for and seek for  knowledge within it's dual system.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 06.02.14 8:11

Thank you for your answers.

Yes, this inspires me: to read the asetian bible, and gain knowledge of the universe, in-depth understanding.

As for question three, answer, do you have examples? Certainly, I should reserach alone, but a bait to catch many a fish?

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Post by Maxx on 06.02.14 8:14

Aset Ka and then the Red Order of Set or Seth.
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Post by N.Augusta on 06.02.14 17:38

The fact that you look outside of Christianity and are willing to learn from various avenues outside of it proves an open-mind.

First: Some answers for you to answer to yourself, but not to share here. What exactly is it that you are seeking? What is your purpose for looking outside of your religion for answers? Why are you looking outside of it? What led you to do that? Are you looking outside to try to somehow find more truth in Christianity? I know my answers to those questions as years ago I left Christianity. Your life is your to live-- live it how you like! As far as Christianity is concerned, opening the doors to occult paths is-- well, evil and not a road to be traveled. As far as studying the occult, there are Christians who study the occult. An occultist will care not that you are a Christian nor what your beliefs are as they are just that, yours! There are Christian occultists too.

Vampirism.... now that, overall, is an area where you are going to find a ton of silly shit and silly people with over-inflated egos. Note: not all, but they are the majority. You can spot those folks a mile away as they brag about their self-proclaimed "powers" of Awesomeness. Many out there do not like Asetianism and will waste their energies bashing it. To each his own! However, if you study the knowledge of this path, study the teachings and keep your mind set on logic and practical then you can learn a lot as you watch the world open up before you. Luis Marques, in his teachings, you can hear his steady, practical and controlled tone come through in his writings. However, his sense of sarcasm and humor do also shine through too, which, makes it all the more interesting as well. Be in no rush with any of this!!!! Take your time reading, keep your mind open and rush not to master anything other than yourself. If you have the intentions of getting more in-tune with that which is within, discovering your true will, discovering Self and living life in accordance with your true will then you have much to gain by opening the doors. If your intent ( I don't mean you as in You, rather anyone) is to gain some mystical powers and elevate your sense of self-importance by proclaiming your "awesomeness" all over the net and elsewhere, then you have already failed self. The Asetian Bible is a great place to start ones quest for knowledge with occult subjects in general, not just vampirism. It opens the doors to occult knowledge. But remember, the Asetians encourage learning from numerous sources and continuing ones search for knowledge. It is not a be all/end all-- like Christianity. Meaning, if one is only open to getting information from the Asetian path-- then that is no good and is very limiting, but also very disappointing leading to frustration as they, responsibly, share only but a glimpse of their knowledge with the public. We have seen some get a little taste and all that happened was it enhanced their craziness as that is how they chose to use it. Others, we have seen so much growth, myself included. It can shake your foundation, but as an occultist, I can say that--that is a very good thing which proves it power and that it does exactly as intended. That was not said to scare anyone, rather it is the simple truth. It is a path of initiation, which, I understand and appreciate all the more as not only am I on this initiatory path, but also another one. It wasn't until I was on another initiatory path that I really, really, really understood it.

And sorry, this post is very disorganized and I jumped all over the place...time quickly escapes me.

Best of luck on your journey and welcome here! Smile
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 07.02.14 2:10

Thank you N. Augusta. To learn in the mysteries is interesting to me, the universe, and certain knowledge. And thank you Maxx for your direct answer.

What is, however, magic? I have been an energy user before, one who almost maintained mystical powers, but without enough reading experience. I would sit on a table and cleanse the overall energies of a room. In result of all energy usage, I would feel as portals opening up in my room. The result overall of the energy usage much have shaken my foundation a little, irresponsibly and with forgetfulness of proper discipline. That is as far as I have approached magic but since I became christian, much of my old energy working ways have dissappeared, and magic, whatsoever of it, turned into prayer instead for the good of all. Prayer can be better, but they are two paths different, requiring discipline too - I have driven myself insane in disproximity to wrong use of prayer, so discipline mastered is crucially important in prayer, and as a selfish service after the will of God.

Asetian magic then, how is it? Magic over self, magic over others? Benevolent, harmless? Is it the raising of the frequency of one's self, or the aiding of one's spiritual path? Is it held within wisdom, carefully mastered? Is it a disciplinary work, with good elaboration, and careful maneauver?

Thank you for your answers.
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Post by Jonathan on 07.02.14 7:09

Asetian magick can be used in many ways. Its essential use is for self-mastery but like any powerful form of magick it can also be used against you or against anyone really. That depends on the practitioner as Asetianism promotes freedom and you alone decide what to do with the power you're given.
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Post by N.Augusta on 07.02.14 7:17

What is magick? you ask. Well, what is magick to you? How do you personally define magick?

There are numerous definitions which one could find, however, in the end it is all up to personal understanding and interpretation of defining what one believes magick to be. My personal definition goes along the lines of Crowley's (the most wickedest man) Smile definition, "The Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will." While I agree with that on an individual/personal level, however, it does not include, nor was it meant to, the fact that magick is all around us for the worlds are magickal as is life, which, Crowley would agree with.

Asetian magic: is magick. I won't try to define their magick as that is limiting, nor will I say that I understand what all they practice in their magickal workings for that would just be, well, silly of me as well as ridiculously presumptuous. You can get an idea of some of their magickal practices when you read the Asetian Bible and it will answer many of your questions.
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Post by N.Augusta on 07.02.14 7:22

Me liketh Jonathan's response! We are trying to answer some questions the best we can without writing pages and pages to answer. You are just going to have to read the book for more in-depth answers. Smile
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 07.02.14 8:46

Thank you, heh heh.

"The Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will." Will, O will; hath I not abandoned thee, conquered thee. Wherewith is thine wisdom, for with wisdom, without, whoso arth thou. Therefore with wisdom go the will. Magic is wisdom! Wisdom is magic! See how beautifully wisdom coheres all things, shapes them so majestically, and with insight into the universe and creation of how things operate as a module.
That will better be wise, and benevolent, otherwise what will happen to the practitioner; I have myself played with my will. I remember how I curved it after hermetic 7 principles to affect my way out of the classroom freely in school, it operated successfully, such knowledge.
So the whole soul beyond the will better be in the stairway of good, and righteousness, otherwise a crooked path. A will to execute righteousness. To unfold and manifest good. To invoke healing, and altruism. Faith in other words. Whenever the Lord Jesus healed any sick person, he said with straight discipline and faith, "Go! You are healed."
Faith is magic too. Faith is as a man walking with a bright burning lantern into an old kitchen; and the cockroaches fly through the walls and bricks.
Be careful with the occult so that nothing harms you, so that nothing negative succeds - which means, something that can be negated, and good stands firm without negation. Faith says, "let there be light!", and there will be light.
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Post by Maxx on 07.02.14 9:47

Your account of Jesus you use stated he could not heal just anyone. There is a reason for that.  Those accounts were of the ones he could or was able to. Also, I am convinced that much in that book was added to fit the situation.  If you study as directed you will find that the accounts have been written and changed over periods of time and in many cases do not even appear to be from that era but from stories based on earlier events and only the names were changed. You could possibly find that what he was doing here and the reason he was born at that time had nothing to do with the story that has now been generated to use fear and control from the priesthood to gain their livelihood from a created situation.   But that is up to you to do your research or just take those stories and accept as written as many do.  

 There is a particular use for evil in contrast in the world we live in.  Do not make the mistake that is taught in your religion that one should only seek for the "bright light" in one's life.  You will find you will come down with a mental state that is like eating only one food and nothing else.  Like sugar.  It is certainly known what that will do for you.    If you make that mistake, it will be a while before you can ever recover from it.  As N. Augusta said, an open mind means shutting down all things previously learned and then looking at the entire picture.

Jesus did not come here to be worshiped and adored.  You err if you believe that as your religion teaches you.  But it makes no dif what anyone other than yourself believes. You are seeking the truth for you.  If you pursue with heartfelt study you will find the truth......but there comes a time when you need to begin and start that work.  Coasting in life does not produce answers and others cannot deliver that truth to you.  You need to do the action.  Time to leave the train station and begin your journey.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 07.02.14 9:57

The example varies. I am absolutely certain, that if I fast for a few days, pray and meditate: then tell a person who is sick, "Be whole!", or "Be healed!", they will absolutely get healed. I have been near to such instances before, it is on a faith level, it is not on an intellectual level; intellectual level has to dissapper, and faith level be blossomed forth, meditated forth, as a flower.

Time to leave the train station and begin the journey. But it was a nice time sitting by and listening and conversing with the people beside, on the bench. I think to purchase the Asetian bible now, and adopt new perspective, and in-depth understanding. Thence perhaps the train leads to cities whereby we can communicate on a new level.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 07.02.14 10:13

That is true, what you say of the "brightness". But it is an attitude, and you can collect many attitudes: one attitude as a lantern, as a tool, any time you can pick it up. Of course, many different tools you can have also, spiritual tools; and the terrains walked through variously, and the atmospheres different. That is one reason I am hereon. But as my name implies, a light shineth forth, but light can be good sustenance.
Too much lightness, brightness, you will soar in the clouds. I have soared in the clouds. Now a little more filled up earth within me, and once the earth is filled the heavens may soar out, again. I agree with your likeness on "brightness". A dual system, a correlative bond, has to happen; anyways, darkness can be transcended. Everything which seems to be dark and misty can be transcended; as through the dlouds art new land sighted, etherically gates are opened, is my behelded idea.
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