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Spider as a symbol or neter

Post by JohnnyWalk on 09.03.09 20:19

Greetings all,
I am wondering if someone with more knowledge of Asetianism than I have could tell me if the spider, or a spider neter, or symbol, has any particular meaning to the Aset Ka.

I've done google searches on this but didn't come up with anything and it isn't mentioned in the Asetian Bible.

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Johnny

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Re: Spider as a symbol or neter

Post by Jonathan on 10.03.09 9:54

Hello Johnny.

I am not aware of any spider symbolism in the Asetian theology, but as many things related with Asetianism, we just can never be sure since there bigger part of the iceberg is hidden in dark waters (inside the Aset Ka).

But could you share with us the purpose of your question and what you are wondering about it? It could help other members to form an opinion to answer.

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Re: Spider as a symbol or neter

Post by JohnnyWalk on 10.03.09 13:36

Yes.

Since about 2003 and heavily since 2005 I have been seeing an astral spider and have no idea what the meaning of it is.

So I was wondering if it was a clue, an archetype, another type of predatory spirit etc.

I've actually consulted many "experts" on the occult about this but have never gotten a definitive answer. After reading the "Asetian Bible"
and thinking about how heavily it is in symbolism I realized I may have missed something in the Egyptian religion dealing with this.

But so far I haven't found anything.

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Re: Spider as a symbol or neter

Post by Saylamine on 10.03.09 13:49

Hi Johnny,

Thank you for asking this question. I was wondering the same thing myself, in regards to whether there is an Egyptian deity connected to spiders. I have had no luck searching, either. I feel that I am strongly connected to the Goddess Arachne, personally, because of her energy and symbolism.

The only connection that I can see with the family of Arachnids and the Egyptian Netjeru is Selkit. But, wasn't the Goddess Neith associated with weaving? This may be a stretch, but I believe the spider represents weaving and manipulating energy, and the cycle of life. I'd love to hear another's perspective on this topic as well.
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Post by JohnnyWalk on 10.03.09 15:51

Yeah, Neith was associated with spiders, but there really isn't much information on her.

I was trying to research other female "archetypes" or deities to see if maybe there was a connection between Aset and Neith.

Depending on the source, there is, but it is tenuous at best so I'm not sure. They can say that Ishtar = Inanna = Astarte = Isis = Aset, but not being an archaeologist I can't be certain. I even looked into dark, vampiric archetypes like Lilith, but it could be everythere or nothig lol. Lilith is associated with the moon.

I'll keep looking and post any relevant info.

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Post by Saylamine on 11.03.09 10:15

Best of luck with your research, JohnnyWalk. I will continue to search for relevant information as well.
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Post by Aghrab on 11.03.09 22:11

JohnnyWalk wrote:Yeah, Neith was associated with spiders, but there really isn't much information on her.

I agree, there is not much information on Deities like Neith as much as there is on others, which is quite a pity, since the information that does exist is quite unbalanced and confusing. I am not fond of much of the information that is available nowadays by the modern Egyptologists, since much of it makes no sense whatsoever. I find it deeply interesting to try and connect the Deities and make sense of their symbolism, but with the information that we have, it is not easy to do so...

One great example of some misleading information, since a few of you brought up Neith and are researching more on the Deity... it is said that Neith was the mother of Sobek, or at least related to the Crocodile Deity, who was seen as the “bodyguard” of several Gods, such as Seth and Ra, two of the Gods that are seen as the enemies of the Aset Ka and of Aset. Others say that Neith was one of the wives of Seth, yet at the same time there is a legend or a myth, which tells us that when Neith was called upon by the other Gods to judge who should inherit the Throne of Egypt, Seth or Heru (Horus), she said how it was Horus who should rule over Egypt, which again goes completely against the previous statement. I can find the same confusing information about almost every Deity that I have come to learn about.

JohnnyWalk wrote:I was trying to research other female "archetypes" or deities to see if maybe there was a connection between Aset and Neith.

I actually did the same in the beginning when I came across that particular Deity, to see if there was a connection there. I believe it makes sense why there seems to be a connection. Despite all the information on her saying that she is the wife of Seth and so on, Neith is drawn on the sarcophagus of the God Khonsu, beside the Goddess Serket, which is known to be one of the Seven Scorpions of Aset, personal Servitors of the Goddess Isis... and Serket is seen as the leader of the Seven Scorpions. Maybe this may be one clear connection between them, although I cannot be sure, and do look forward to more information and ideas on this, from other members.

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