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Post by A.Nightside on 26.06.17 16:14

Someone else posted an intro in this section,so I suppose this is the most appropriate forum to post in for this (If I'm wrong, I apologize)..

uh let's see.

Who am I?
Well, I go by the name Amelia Nightside. It is not my birth, legal or "given" name, but it is a chosen "nightside" name for myself. Why Amelia? Simply because it shortens to "A Nightside" while I was trying to come up with a nightside name for myself. I wasn't very creative with it, but it serves it's purpose and I quite like the name Amelia, Mia or Amy/i.

What am I?
I suppose that depends on your personal definition of terms.
I consider myself a Pranic or energy, Vampire. I also consider myself Otherkin/Therian.
I began learning about Vampires around the age of 10 or so, as a side, I think it's good to note that I was actually not allowed to watch horror movies and had no real interest in vampires until that time. My brother was into video games, I watched. I watched a particular video game of a "vampire" who needed both blood from living creatures and souls from the enemies he killed. I remember this, at least from my extremely limited perspective, being unique, and I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that no matter how full the character's health bar was, it killed the human or other creature every time he fed. I felt this was unrealistic, and it also apparently sunk a bit of fear into my head. I remember wondering to myself if vampires, of any kind (only knowing the "monsters" of myth), were real and if I had to fear for my life. I remember thinking, that if they only needed a little, I wouldn't mind sharing blood, but I didn't want to die. I was a silly, over-imaginative little girl.

Anyway, I began researching, to quiet my irrational fear. I started with a single article, and by 14 years old (ish) I'd found myself among a small forum of individuals claiming to be vampires. I sort of laughed at the idea of vampires being real, but over time, they clarified things to me, this was my first taste of (prepares self for groan) The Online Vampire Community. I didn't really think of myself as one of them, but found myself increasingly hungry for more knowledge. I loved learning at that time, and this subject was definitely new.

In reading, discussing and overall just getting to know some of these individuals, it came up that I might be one myself. I doubted it, but when described symptoms and the like, it did fit. It took me some time, but, with much self-analysis and experimentations, I eventually accepted myself as I am. I am a Vampire because I need to take in metaphysical and life force energies.

Why am I here?
Well, a few years ago, I followed the crowds onto Facebook and made myself quite at home there. Over recent year, or so, Facebook has developed a new name policy. On top of that, it is common for immature individuals who disagree with you or who don't like you (regardless of their reason) to report your account to website administration. Because of the combination, I no longer have a profile, under this name, on Facebook. Since this is now a thing and I don't see it being remedied any time soon, I've decided to find my way back into all the old forums.

Now, I have mentioned, that I thought I'd been a member of this forum some time ago, but figured my profile had been deleted due to inactivity. Funny that, as of today I actually found the forum that I was looking for (and the account is still registered).. so I'm sort of here by mistake, though I can't lie, it's quite interesting, regardless of my personal beliefs, and I'd like to stay if you'll all have me (:

What is my favorite color
Purple.

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
Pfft, heck if I know.


Etcetera
Have questions? Please ask. (:
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Post by Jonathan on 26.06.17 20:57

Welcome, even if by mistake. Wink
Often things that appear to be mistakes aren't but time will be the judge of that.
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Post by Nightshade on 26.06.17 20:59

Hi there. You bumped into quite the odd place I tell you that. Reading your introduction and trying to gauge the timeline, I'm wondering what was the material on vampirism you first had contact with in the VC? I'm guessing maybe Belanger's stuff?
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Post by A.Nightside on 27.06.17 11:18

The video game that sparked my fear, and led me to the direction of better understanding was Soul Reaver. The article was not written by Belanger, though in time I did find my way to her stuff, which I related to a lot as well (though the Egyptian references I sort of wrote off as being specific to her house/organization and I honestly didn't care if it applied to me or not). The article was actually written by Inanna Arthen, and years later (when FB became popular) I finally got to speak with her a bit, and she confessed the piece was written in like the 80s (don't quote me) and that the information was outdated and needed much modification.

Still, I was grateful for that piece. It was enough to calm my irrational fear, and to spark a subtle interest. I honestly dismissed it after reading it. My fear was done so I had no need to think over it more, but when someone from that small forum suggested the possibility of my own vampirism to me based on almost a year of talking and describing of "symptoms", invited me to that forum. If I hadn't seen that article previously, I might not have been as receptive and open minded enough to learn more.

Here is the piece: http://www.earthspirit.com/fireheart/fhvampire.html

Here is, I think her modifications:
http://bylightunseen.net/revisit.htm
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Post by Heruset on 27.06.17 17:18

There goes another one

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Post by Nightshade on 27.06.17 20:41

Oh yes I know who Inanna is. Do you mind if I ask what was this small forum you talk about and misjudged as this one?
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Post by A.Nightside on 28.06.17 10:37

Heruset wrote:There goes another one

Something wrong?
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Post by A.Nightside on 28.06.17 10:39

Nightshade wrote:Oh yes I know who Inanna is. Do you mind if I ask what was this small forum you talk about and misjudged as this one?

The "small forum" form my beginnings and the one I was trying to reconnect to but found this instead, aren't the same forum. The one I mistook was this one, is one run by the South African vampire community. Forum communities have been so dead due to social networking, I figured perhaps there was a change in staff/ownership. They really aren't similar except in the skin/design of the forum (black and red)...
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Post by Jonathan on 28.06.17 14:54

In many other communities people are likely to speak ill of this forum. At least it has been like that for years. A part of the OVC (now they call it GVC?), especially those more closely tied to its roleplaying side, usually have some kind of grudge against the Aset Ka and the community that studies their tradition, so we're often a target to all sorts of misconceptions over and over again.

Anyways make your own judgement without the influence of others if possible. Smile
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Post by A.Nightside on 29.06.17 10:05

Jonathan wrote:In many other communities people are likely to speak ill of this forum. At least it has been like that for years. A part of the OVC (now they call it GVC?), especially those more closely tied to its roleplaying side, usually have some kind of grudge against the Aset Ka and the community that studies their tradition, so we're often a target to all sorts of misconceptions over and over again.

Anyways make your own judgement without the influence of others if possible. Smile

Well, I know at first look, this site seemed a little, how do I put it, intense? I mean I questioned if it was actually a roleplay site, but after reading through a few threads, I realized it was serious and opened my mind a bit to consider the actual content rather than the percieved tone.

The closest I can relate is this individual I met, Etu Malku(?), he is or was a member of the Aset Ka or similar organization if memory serves. He often enters a thread or forum and appears troll-like to people, calling out self-identified vampries as being not what they claim but something else. Honestly, I find there to be knowledgge and value in all points, and in the rare times he gets a chance to explain and thoroughly discuss things, I think he may have something in what he says. (Probably shouldn't name drop. I feel like I'm talking about him behind his back, which isn't right). .. but, it's primarily thanks to him that I've heard of the Aset Ka (primarily) and other groups. I do recall skimming through a thread in this forum where his name was dropped with a tone of distaste or displeasure so I hope my being familiar with him isn't an issue. I have no problems with him, myself.

I hold no grudge except when someone blatantly tries to call me a liar before understanding where I come from. I can kind of understand the idea of "predatory spirituality" being well, an undesirable practice to accept (though I admit, my only understanding is that it reads as a choice to feed, not a need to do so, and that feeding can sometimes be done indiscriminatorily and used to harm others). I don't see my donors as victims or prey, but willing donors, equal to me, but willing to give me a piece of themselves that I wouldn't be well if I had to be without (and trust me I've gone without for extended periods of time, and it's no fun). ..and on a related note, the "damage" to the energy body thing, while it made sense when I was first learning, didn't seem to ring quite right with me. The description of a "metabolism" seems more appropriate for my case, though I suppose a metabolism that is too fast, too slow or otherwise not processing energy properly could be described as "broken" I suppose.

I am familiar with a few occult and/or left hand path groups (individuals rather) who's tone and word choice come off as very, holier than thou, and seem very disrespectful to others, which indeed leaves a bad impression, but I try not to judge a group based on a couple of individuals.
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Post by Maxx on 29.06.17 10:24

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Post by A.Nightside on 29.06.17 16:49

Maxx wrote:Devil
Lame
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Post by Jonathan on 29.06.17 18:27

A.Nightside wrote:
Jonathan wrote:In many other communities people are likely to speak ill of this forum. At least it has been like that for years. A part of the OVC (now they call it GVC?), especially those more closely tied to its roleplaying side, usually have some kind of grudge against the Aset Ka and the community that studies their tradition, so we're often a target to all sorts of misconceptions over and over again.

Anyways make your own judgement without the influence of others if possible. Smile

Well, I know at first look, this site seemed a little, how do I put it, intense? I mean I questioned if it was actually a roleplay site, but after reading through a few threads, I realized it was serious and opened my mind a bit to consider the actual content rather than the percieved tone.

The closest I can relate is this individual I met, Etu Malku(?), he is or was a member of the Aset Ka or similar organization if memory serves. He often enters a thread or forum and appears troll-like to people, calling out self-identified vampries as being not what they claim but something else. Honestly, I find there to be knowledgge and value in all points, and in the rare times he gets a chance to explain and thoroughly discuss things, I think he may have something in what he says. (Probably shouldn't name drop. I feel like I'm talking about him behind his back, which isn't right). .. but, it's primarily thanks to him that I've heard of the Aset Ka (primarily) and other groups. I do recall skimming through a thread in this forum where his name was dropped with a tone of distaste or displeasure so I hope my being familiar with him isn't an issue. I have no problems with him, myself.

I hold no grudge except when someone blatantly tries to call me a liar before understanding where I come from. I can kind of understand the idea of "predatory spirituality" being well, an undesirable practice to accept (though I admit, my only understanding is that it reads as a choice to feed, not a need to do so, and that feeding can sometimes be done indiscriminatorily and used to harm others). I don't see my donors as victims or prey, but willing donors, equal to me, but willing to give me a piece of themselves that I wouldn't be well if I had to be without (and trust me I've gone without for extended periods of time, and it's no fun). ..and on a related note, the "damage" to the energy body thing, while it made sense when I was first learning, didn't seem to ring quite right with me. The description of a "metabolism" seems more appropriate for my case, though I suppose a metabolism that is too fast, too slow or otherwise not processing energy properly could be described as "broken" I suppose.

I am familiar with a few occult and/or left hand path groups (individuals rather) who's tone and word choice come off as very, holier than thou, and seem very disrespectful to others, which indeed leaves a bad impression, but I try not to judge a group based on a couple of individuals.

Most of us know Etu. He is not and never was a member of the Aset Ka but I understand what you mean as he used to speak about it a lot. Go in different forums, pretend to be an Asetian, be all loud about it, we're familiar with it. He used to be a regular in this forum but at some point had a falling out with a few members, although years later it turned out that someone was playing in the middle so to be fair it was not just his fault. Anyways thatís in the past now.

Also no one here will judge you or mistreat you just because you get along with someone they might not like. At least I hope not. That would be immature so no worries there.

I can agree when you say that some occult groups act as if theyíre better than others and know it all, thatís mostly true among groups that actually lack proper occult study and go on ego trips more than seeking wisdom. We try not to be like that here although we do tend to speak our minds openly and without fear of judgement. Also, since the subject was Asetianism, Asetians and Asetianists, that is definitely not a stance that we have ever seen from the Aset Ka. In fact the Aset Ka just keeps to its own inner work, they are extremely private and don't interact much with outsiders, so the Asetians (or the Aset Ka) donít really judge or criticize anyone. Ever.

Concerning donors I agree with you, I donít see them as victims or prey either. Actually if you want to use magick against someone and make him a prey that has nothing to do with vampirism or a donor, as anyone with proper understanding of metaphysics can do that. In fact, once again in the theme of Asetianism, the exchanges of energy are oftentimes seen as sacred and intimate, something bound to great respect and honor. So itís different than how most LHP groups approach it and their views on predatory spirituality, even though I must say that the Aset Ka were pioneers in the very concept of predatory spirituality. Before their works and occult literature teaching about it the concept of predatory spirituality didnít even exist, but most modern groups don't really care about historical accuracy.
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Post by Maxx on 29.06.17 18:45

I was not going to waste my effort on a reply concerning EtuMalku or whatever name he is using today. †Based on the comments from A Nightside we would be having a difference of opinion. † So I am content to leave her mind in a positive way with her friend. †My opinion about the subject in question is stated clearly throughout the forum. So it is well the Good Drill Instructor came out in a commentary. lol.
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Post by Jonathan on 29.06.17 20:53

Hey I'm no instructor. Razz
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Post by A.Nightside on 29.06.17 21:54

Maxx wrote:I was not going to waste my effort on a reply concerning EtuMalku or whatever name he is using today. †Based on the comments from A Nightside we would be having a difference of opinion. † So I am content to leave her mind in a positive way with her friend. †My opinion about the subject in question is stated clearly throughout the forum. †So it is well the Good Drill Instructor came out in a commentary. †lol.
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Post by A.Nightside on 29.06.17 21:55

A.Nightside wrote:
Maxx wrote:I was not going to waste my effort on a reply concerning EtuMalku or whatever name he is using today. †Based on the comments from A Nightside we would be having a difference of opinion. † So I am content to leave her mind in a positive way with her friend. †My opinion about the subject in question is stated clearly throughout the forum. †So it is well the Good Drill Instructor came out in a commentary. †lol.
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You're welcome to share your opinions, Maxx. Just because I disagree with you, doesn't mean you shouldn't feel right sharing your story. Razz

I wish I could find an edit feature. I tend to hit "send" way too quickly.

My opinions, as a whole, about him are simply open minded, accepting, neutral. Not so much positive or negative. Sometimes I admire him as a source of knowledge that I'm not familiar with, other times I think he's a bit much and I'd rather keep my distance *shrugs*
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Post by Maxx on 01.07.17 11:34

I have had run ins with him outside of the forum. †I place no credible insight in him as I am aware he creates fake people and names and has them post under his followers where it appears they are breathless for his every post when it is his own posting. † LOL. † This type of fake following does not lend itself to anything about him to discuss. †There is no need to give him any notoriety here. †He is just a nobody seeking attention. †It has been shown to be the same case with those that follow and friend him that are on this forum. †They are trouble makers and seek attention to themselves in any way they can. †I am not a fan.
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Post by A.Nightside on 02.07.17 9:55

Maxx wrote:I have had run ins with him outside of the forum. †I place no credible insight in him as I am aware he creates fake people and names and has them post under his followers where it appears they are breathless for his every post when it is his own posting. † LOL. † This type of fake following does not lend itself to anything about him to discuss. †There is no need to give him any notoriety here. †He is just a nobody seeking attention. †It has been shown to be the same case with those that follow and friend him that are on this forum. †They are trouble makers and seek attention to themselves in any way they can. †I am not a fan.

I've actually not witnessed this behavior ever. He's often a minority, if not the only one expressing his ideas, in the circles I've interacted with him in.
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Post by Maxx on 02.07.17 11:30

there are others here that have had the same issues that I have with him. Not a big deal. Moving on from this.
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Post by A.Nightside on 02.07.17 21:09

Maxx wrote:there are others here that have had the same issues that I have with him. †Not a big deal. †Moving on from this.

Fair enough (:
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