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Post by Noctis on 04.08.18 3:45

Probably this beautiful song is very far from the reality of the music of the Asetians, but I thought it was a good exercise to publish music related to ancient Egypt, or music that due to its antiquity, can be inspiring when it comes to meditating or studying. I am a musician, and the atmosphere resulting from a good soundtrack always seemed very interesting to me to mix with magical and / or ritual exercises. Below I publish an explanation of the interpreter about the piece that is playing ...

"Here is something that should really set the world on fire! It is a 3000-year-old song, sung in a dead language that no one speaks or understands, accompanied on an instrument called the "djedjet" that hasn't existed in several millennia!  

The words for this song are from an ancient Egyptian papyrus scroll, written in a formalized version of the language of the New Kingdom (roughly 1500 B.C.). This was the era of some of Egypt's most famous pharaohs, including Tutankhamun, Queen Hatshepsut and the notorious "heretic king" Akenaten and his wife Queen Nefertiti.

The song itself is written in several parts as a dialog between a young man and the girl he loves. This is the first part of it sung by the young man.  Although he refers to the girl as "sister", she is not his actual sister. It was common for people in those days, as it is in some places today, to refer to one another as "brother" and "sister" when they belonged to the same community.

The language of ancient Egypt died out long ago, and no one is certain exactly how it was pronounced because only consonants were written - no vowels. The song itself is surprisingly explicit and erotic. After I made the video, I decided I had better add subtitles with a translation because without that nothing made any sense.

The instrument I am using to accompany myself is a reproduction of a 22 string Egyptian New Kingdom arched ('C' - shaped) harp called a "djedjet". It is made entirely of cedar and animal skin, without nails or screws of any kind. It has a rich, deep tone and I placed a microphone at the bottom of the instrument to pick up the sound. There is nothing except harp and voice in this recording.

Ancient Egyptians wrote out many of the words to their songs but they did not write down the music, so we have no idea what their songs or instrumental music sounded like. I have tuned the harp in this video to what is called a "double harmonic major scale". This does not correspond to any of the "modes" of western musical theory. Did ancient Egyptians use this scale? No one knows, but it is possible. I believe that the ancient harpists tuned their instruments to suit the piece of music they were playing.

Many biblical scholars have suggested that this song was the inspiration for the SONG OF SONGS, or "Song Of Solomon" from the Old Testament of the Bible because the parallels between them are striking. The Song Of Solomon would have been written down long after the period of the Egyptian New Kingdom."


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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 04.08.18 4:56

This was exceedingly beautiful. Although, on a personal note, it was a bit too erotic and into details for my taste, haha. But that is not to make an underestimation of its beauty and significance as a nice finding. Truly thank you for sharing. I particularly liked the part where he cried out "Sister!" as that carried a resounding high pitch of very lovely sound. Hehe.
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Post by Noctis on 04.08.18 6:14

Thanks for your words MysticLightShinethForth. I encourage everyone to keep this thread alive, I think it can be very inspiring for everyone. I will continue sharing more music. Arrow
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Post by George Gosdas on 04.08.18 7:33

Very beautiful indeed. You mentioned music as a tool in ritual/magickal workings and it brought me the idea of archetypes into my mind. Certain archetypes such as Lilith, Osiris, Lucifer, are accessible constructs through ritual. Music related to their nature can help to ''tune'' into their energies with great ease. In the past I recall listening to chaotic, dark music, to tap into the archetype of Lilith and later entering a lucid dream in which I met a projection of Her into my dream and interacting with her. I am aware she was a projection of an aspect of myself and not an actual Deity but she taught me things about myself. Let us not forget that music is also a journey of the soul and hence a gateway to other worlds...

I am a musician too and I am curious to know what type of music you compose and look forward listening to it  Smile

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Post by Noctis on 04.08.18 7:47

Music has the virtue of transporting in many ways, for practitioners of any magical discipline, as you point out with your example, it still has more value.

As for me, I am afraid that I am not a great composer, my work is reduced to simply interpreting. I'm a bass player and I'm self-taught. The groups in which I have played are far from making music like the one shown in this publication. They were very normal rock and pop rock formations. If it is of your interest I will pass a private link.
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Post by Jonathan on 04.08.18 8:10

That's interesting and beautiful. It's true that there is metaphysical and psychological power in music, so that can also be a fascinating field of study.
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Post by Noctis on 05.08.18 14:14

Here I leave another set of pieces. They are of contemporary inspiration but include some hymns from the texts of the pyramids, specifically the 567,573, and the 510. I find it very evocative when I use it in magical works. I hope that you also find it equally evocative.

I know that I publish often despite my recent introduction to the forum, it is the result of enthusiasm for what I found, I hope you know how to apologize.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 05.08.18 23:30

I listen to an album by Michael Atherton who plays in that album a replica of ancient Egyptian music as it seems. The album is called: "Ankh: The Sound of Ancient Egypt" and you can find it on YouTube or Spotify. Do enjoy! I love this album. Found it most suitable to share in this particular thread. Smile
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Post by Noctis on 06.08.18 1:35

Thanks, yes, I know the album! It is also very inspiring. bounce
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Post by Noctis on 07.08.18 12:45

In this case we talk about Sumeria and not Egypt, but it is equally inspiring ...

The EPIC OF GILGAMESH is the earliest great work of literature that we know of, and was first written down by the Sumerians around 2100 B.C.

Ancient Sumer was the land that lay between the two rivers, the Tigris and Euphrates, in Mesopotamia. The language that the Sumerians spoke was unrelated to the Semitic languages of their neighbors the Akkadians and Babylonians, and it was written in a syllabary (a kind of alphabet) called "cuneiform". By 2000 B.C., the language of Sumer had almost completely died out and was used only by scholars (like Latin is today). No one knows how it was pronounced because it has not been heard in 4000 years.

What you hear in this video are a few of the opening lines of part of the epic poem, accompanied only by a long-neck, three-string, Sumerian lute known as a "gish-gu-di". The instrument is tuned to G - G - D, and although it is similar to other long neck lutes still in use today (the tar, the setar, the saz, etc.) the modern instruments are low tension and strung with fine steel wire. The ancient long neck lutes (such as the Egyptian "nefer") were strung with gut and behaved slightly differently. The short-neck lute known as the "oud" is strung with gut/nylon, and its sound has much in common with the ancient long-neck lute although the oud is not a fretted instrument and its strings are much shorter (about 25 inches or 63 cm) as compared to 32 inches (82 cm) on a long-neck instrument.

The location for this performance is the courtyard of Nebuchadnezzar's palace in Babylon. The piece is four minutes long and is intended only as a taste of what the music of ancient Sumer might have sounded like.

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Post by nachtzehren on 07.08.18 15:39

Noctis wrote:

The Epic of Gilgamesh has always been a dear old favourite of mine, so this was a particular hair-on-the-neck-rising experience. Thank you for posting it.
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Post by Lynskha on 07.08.18 18:47

Amazing video. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Noctis on 08.08.18 5:19

Thank you, it is nice to see that this music awakens feelings in those that I think have ancient Souls, since their sounds have echoes in you...
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Post by Noctis on 11.08.18 12:09

Great song by greece antique hellenic folk band Daemonia Nymphe.

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Post by Rhea Kaye on 11.08.18 12:17

Noctis,

You might really like this one- it was shared on the Twitter of Luis Marques some time ago if I am not mistaken, and I finally got around to listening to it after it was shared in a group.

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Post by Rhea Kaye on 11.08.18 12:27

Oh... My apologies for the double post, but this one is very good as well. It is not exactly on the same theme as all the others, but I find the lyrics to be quite beautiful. Of course we cannot pinpoint which songs are "purely Asetian", as I feel that would be based more upon what the individual interprets as being in resonance with different elements of Asetianism, but this particular one really speaks in that regard, under my own personal interpretation.

The lyric translations from Arabic are particularly sweet and bring forth a few resonant moments from what is described as a higher immortal love.

I hope someone likes it!

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Post by Jonathan on 11.08.18 14:55

It's nice to see you all sharing some good music and possible connections with the occult and Asetianism. I have been discussing with a few people who are invested in those elements of communion between magick and music, how certain instruments and vibrational ranges induce emotion and influence energy. I find Middle Eastern sounds touching and inspiring.
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Post by Noctis on 12.08.18 2:10

Two beautiful pieces Rhea, although I confess that I liked the first one, Sting's is beautiful but maybe very contemporary for my taste but that does not make it less valid.

I'm glad you like Jonathan. I think this is a good thread of contributions that can be very evocative. Let's share:
Music - Dead Can Dance - Song Of The Nile (From album "Spiritchaser" (1996)
Video - Faraon (1965) Poland
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Post by nachtzehren on 12.08.18 3:33

Dead Can Dance are one of my favourite bands.
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Post by AmirAlzzalam on 12.08.18 9:34

Azam Ali
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 12.08.18 9:49

AmirAlzzalam, can I ask you something? Why did you previously use as your avatar a photo of Robert Sushko? Could you perhaps be the same person?
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Post by AmirAlzzalam on 12.08.18 10:06

Rhea Kaye wrote:AmirAlzzalam, can I ask you something? Why did you previously use as your avatar a photo of Robert Sushko? Could you perhaps be the same person?
Whatever I find online that I like, I've been myself for a while now Suspect
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 12.08.18 10:12

Wow! That's really strange.
Especially since your current avatar is also a photo on Etu Malku's profile on Facebook, they match exactly, and Etu/Sushko are the same guy.
How very strange!
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Post by AmirAlzzalam on 12.08.18 10:36

Rhea Kaye wrote:Wow! That's really strange.
Especially since your current avatar is also a photo on Etu Malku's profile on Facebook, they match exactly, and Etu/Sushko are the same guy.
How very strange!
I suppose if they are the same person and I used a pic from one then they would both have the pic? Is there a point to this?
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Post by Victor on 12.08.18 11:05

Come on guys let us all pretend we didn’t know that he was another of Robert Sushko’s fake characters, the Great Hierophant of the Herald of the Dawn, according to actually no one but himself because it’s a scam order that doesn’t really exist. This "leader" of a fictitious organization, pretending to be all experienced and mysterious online, is a poor old guy fixing guitars for a living in New Jersey, entirely uneducated on occult theory and practice who spends his free time plagiarizing content on forums and facebook. Can’t get more cliché than that. Twisted Evil
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