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Reason of Not Awakening...

Post by Gilded on 10.04.09 18:20

Well, as we all know, the Asetians many times have control over their own incarnations... and we have heard how some Asetians may not incarnate, which happened during the Djehuty of Crocodile, when the ROS had most power. However I wanted to know your opinion... what other reasons do you believe would make an Asetian not incarnate, or incarnate far from their Family? Or... why would an Asetian, if he or she has control over their incarnation, incarnate within a horrible family?

I have a few ideas, of why an Asetian may incarnate far from the Family or incarnate within a terrible environment, if he or she had control over their incarnation. Perhaps they may want to prove that they are worthy, so incarnating far would make them fight harder for their life, and for being closer to their Family. Maybe they do not incarnate because they want to do so with their Lovers and the Asetians that they are most close with...

I will be looking forward to hearing more opinions.
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Re: Reason of Not Awakening...

Post by Phoenix on 10.04.09 19:50

Gilded, an interesting query. I can only guess why an Asetian would choose to or not to reincarnate. I might imagine a Scorpion would wait until she/he could reincarnate with her/his soulmate. Or, wait until a time when her/his return and skills would be more valuable to the AK and Her Higness.
As to reincarnating away from family or to a difficult situation, I again guess that a difficult decision (to us) might be based on a desire to learn a new culture, religion or way of human thinking - perhaps to actually shape or influence human events. If this were even close to the truth, I would also guess that the decision is viewed as important to further evolving her/his ka or gaining wisdom important to the goals of the Order.
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Re: Reason of Not Awakening...

Post by Daniel09 on 10.04.09 21:07

I also get the feeling that there is a joint effort when incarnating, that lives are chosen specifically in certain areas to unfold the perfect sequence of events which would lead to the next stage in Earthly evolution. By joint effort, I mean the Asetians actually plan it out with one another before incarnating again, choosing specific areas and people who will bring about the proper change in a child raised to allow them to awaken and rejoin with other Asetians. It's a risk each time, but it is likely calculated at such a high level of pattern prediction that once the decision is made, there is almost no chance of something going wrong. I say almost, because it is always possible that there is another force that may choose to interfere, though I don't know exactly what that may be.
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Re: Reason of Not Awakening...

Post by Aghrab on 11.04.09 23:51

Gilded wrote:Or... why would an Asetian, if he or she has control over their incarnation, incarnate within a horrible family?

This question caught my eye, and I wish to share my thoughts on it. Maybe an Asetian may incarnate within a great family, because he or she needs that safety and protection until they are awakened, being them an important Asetian. I would imagine a Viperine, for example, to incarnate within a better environment. Now, why would an Asetian, with the control over his own incarnation, incarnate within a bad environment? A few reasons come to my mind... Maybe that Asetian knows that he needs to prove that he is worthy to be by the side of the Family, as yourself said. Or maybe that Asetian knows that his path will be a tough one this life, so incarnating further from the Aset Ka and in a tough environment would need him to fight even harder for a chance to open a door and find Life, with the Aset Ka. But many times, I believe, if an Asetian has control over their incarnation, they would not incarnate far, if not for a good reason. Many times such incarnations may be a sign of the “jailing of the Soul”, as I like to call it... where it is no longer themselves with the control, but the enemy.

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Re: Reason of Not Awakening...

Post by Victor on 12.04.09 17:12

You mean reasons not to awaken or not to reincarnate? Since you used awakening in the title but reincarnation in the post's subject matter.

I also believe that some Asetians have incarnated far from their Family due to Sethian disruption of their reincarnation cycle mechanisms. Some sort of metaphysical attack the Sethians could have learned during the Djehuty of the Crocodile, that gave them a secret, or a weapon if you like, they might have used in this silent battle against the Aset Ka, by jamming the Asetians' reincarnation mechanisms and disrupting its traditional full control by the Elders. This could have resulted in some Asetians ending up incarnated far from the Aset Ka, and hence the importance of the tools like the Asetian Bible, to draw them back and join forces once more...
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Re: Reason of Not Awakening...

Post by Gilded on 12.04.09 19:48

Victor wrote:You mean reasons not to awaken or not to reincarnate? Since you used awakening in the title but reincarnation in the post's subject matter.

I meant any case of... not awakening, not incarnating, incarnating far from the Family, incarnating within a bad family...
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Re: Reason of Not Awakening...

Post by Daniel09 on 12.04.09 20:05

I can't imagine an Asetian being stranded merely because they lost connection with the Aset Ka, so I think they would certainly determine some way to re-establish a connection by incarnating very carefully. If that means into a bad family or far away to achieve the best unnoticable connection, I guess that's just how it would have had to be.
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Re: Reason of Not Awakening...

Post by Aghrab on 15.04.09 19:36

An Asetian living within a bad family has a better chance at detaching from them easier, once awakened and ready to walk away from the biological family and head towards the True Family. This can be used as a tool, mostly for the Concubine lineage, since Viperines and Guardians are more aware of the fact that their biological siblings are not their “truest form of parents and family”.

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