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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 19.01.19 20:01

Anyone here familiar with creating sigils for personal magickal use and activating those, following the practice of its discipline? Seemingly a very economically efficient technique with nearly limitless potential, however its borders should not be stretchd too far as there are certain limits to everything, as too unreasonably large operations might lead to collapse as with anything... Neither should one rely too much upon creating sigils and having everything done by magick when things can be handled otherwise differently. This, if one wishes to maintain some level of mental independence from techniques and methods - as an unrestricted head - free from letting clutches leak energy from the principle of its otherwise more wise retention in an originally greater mental self-sufficiency. Sigils can be employed for nearly any kind of magickal use and imagination sets the sky's limits. As with all things... responsibility...
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Post by Maxx on 20.01.19 0:11

That is all I used to do.....but not like you suggest.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 20.01.19 19:12

What would you say about it?
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Post by Maxx on 20.01.19 20:03

2 things.  

1. Those that have no idea how it operates find in your posting there are no directions how to do that.  If they have any interest in learning, they will obtain book knowledge on it cause they do not find any info in your post.

2.  Those that actually practice that, already know how to make the necessary contact and how it all functions and certainly take no suggestions from you regarding caution and responsibility as they know they work with good and evil combined. They will know how delicate it is.   Many more details, but that is not spread all over a net forum.  lol.

Same thing with your mind posting.  

Are you trying to start your own literary school?   If so, sign me up.  I love your teachings.........  I can already see there is much insight I can learn from you and gain great wisdom.

Buddha taught that the universal disease of mankind is ignorance, and wisdom is the only remedy.  So I will sign up for your classes.

Oh,  just a reminder.  The Aset Ka certainly have the ability to use the powers of darkness....and so far I do not see where you have taught on that section yet.  Maybe I missed it.

And....how are you coming with that question form you are designing.  If you do not hurry up with it, there may be some others like me get in the front door....You need to hurry with that.  You do not want any others like me until you start your school.

And with all of that, I can say... You are a nice little fellow. Stay happy.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 20.01.19 20:25

I had no intention of including how-to in my post. That is something individuals will have to search up for themselves. As far as your second point is concerned, neither was this meant as any kind of instruction for advanced practitioners but in combination of answering your first point that it was meant for starting discussion and merely giving clues to newer people who would practice it, if they so would look it up on their own, that they would do it in a less harmful way to themselves so me exercising responsibility over my words as far as my understanding reaches for it and it is possible.

Apart from that, I cannot tell whether you are serious or not.

And of course I know that the Asetians can use the powers of darkness. I do not dispute that. I merely think that, for people who would take impression of whatever words we might speak and might go off and do their own things upon the basis of those thoughts, should know to handle it with responsibility - and that is the key word: responsibility - if they do not want to harm themselves and mess up badly. We never know what kind of people are perusing this forum. I believe it ranges from all kinds of people, but mainly two or three demographics: (1) delusionals as you are aware of, (2) more sound and stable people interested in vampirism and some other categories based on divisions and mixtures between these two points...

As for your last question I do not know what you mean. Question form I am designing? What do you mean by that? When did I mention any such thing and what would it be for? I never really mentioned creating any school either, but if I open one, you are welcome.
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Re: Discipline of Sigil Magick

Post by Maxx on 20.01.19 20:38

Well, I don't know why I came here tonight.
I got a feelin'-- that somethin' ain't right.
I'm so scared I might fall outta my chair,
and I'm wonderin' how I'll get down those stairs.

Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am.....
Stuck in the middle with you.
     Yes, I am-----

Stuck in the middle with you,
And I'm wonderin' what it is I should do?
It's so hard to keep the smile off my face,
Bleedin' joy from all over that place.

Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right, Here I am,
Stuck in the middle with you.......Mystic
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 20.01.19 20:44

What flattery... lol! But maybe I did not understand it correctly... Might have multiple meanings of interpretation to it and I am not sure which one you designated upon me... lol!
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Post by Maxx on 20.01.19 20:46

Why, what else???? other than the Mystic Master.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 20.01.19 22:41

This is a rather interesting topic, sigils. If anyone has recommended reading that they particularly enjoy on this topic, I'd love to hear it.
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Post by Maxx on 20.01.19 23:39

Queen of Hell by Mark Alan Smith

Also The Red King by Mark Alan Smith

And The Scorpion God by Mark Alan Smith
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 20.01.19 23:51

I've heard of those titles. It all looks far too good to pass up, so it's definitely on my list of things to acquire eventually. I heard he issues free pdfs of these earlier titles with a purchase of any new one, so I hope that is still in effect.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 20.01.19 23:51

How is your experience working with this system?
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Post by Maxx on 21.01.19 0:43

lol. I am me. That should be enough said. ha
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Post by Maxx on 21.01.19 0:43

we are all family at this point.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 21.01.19 0:49

And the air grows thick with sarcasm. Razz
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Post by Maxx on 21.01.19 0:55

hahah. don't let that hinder doing the study. It is mind opening
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Post by Maxx on 21.01.19 0:56

by family I am talking about all the beings I made friends with doing the system. Sorry, just had a lady pass over to the other side in Maine. Took me a little to help in the transition. So took me a little to get back to you.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 21.01.19 0:59

It looks like quite a legit system. I appreciated the vibe I got from it. Too often, new material out there about dark paths gives off an edgelord, trying too hard sense.
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Post by Maxx on 21.01.19 1:02

you can go as far into as you want and break off at any time and still use everything you acquire. So you would not lose anything even by not working through all 3 books.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 21.01.19 1:07

Aren't there more than three? I remember this system was discussed in the past, but it has been a while back now.

I prefer to carry things all the way out but of course there are different approaches to everything.
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Post by Maxx on 21.01.19 1:12

yes. but the others were not for me. I will not get into the why here... but it would take maybe three years to go through the first ones.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 21.01.19 1:15

I see, that is an interesting detail. So, plenty of material with the three.
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Post by Maxx on 21.01.19 1:22

yes. In the beginning I was not going to work in it as I thought it was too dark...but I was referred to it by another spirit being and it worked out exactly the way I was told. But I must say, it is different for every individual and one must determine how it will work with your spirit.

I remember way back that Victor asked me a couple of questions about it and I recall him saying he was hearing things about it that was good as far as being one to get real results with. As you said, they are not books with such some more crap made up to sell books with.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 21.01.19 12:22

Practical Sigil Magick by Frater U D is a quite good book, majorly suited for beginners in my understanding. It also covers some chapter with more advanced knowledge that requires Kabbalistic background that has to do with planetary magick in a sense. Nothing I am particularly familiar with, but for anyone who is more advanced alongst those lines it might be a nice piece of knowledge. The book covers both certain theory, explanatory models of how it functions, and practical aspects of how to do the work on that level, of creating personal sigils for magickal use in different methods or ways.
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Re: Discipline of Sigil Magick

Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 21.01.19 12:49

However, one has got to be careful in the construction of sigils or rather skillful, because, to draw upon a funny anecdote here, I created a sigil for becoming conscious and awake within my dreams but instead woke halfly up as soon as I had started dreaming in my sleep, rather frequently and the whole night through, and I can see why... as I stated my sentence of desire wrongly and I had the vague suspicion that I did even when I wrote it... xD But I did get enough sleep anyways. You have got to be very specific and unambiguous in how you create your sentence of desire, that upon which you will construct your sigil and have it represent, yet preferably as simple as possible however without being too general, I think... it is a skillful art to master in different ways.

However, I must also add that the book by Frater U D is mainly about the creation of your own unique sigils. It does not as much - apart from the planetary sigil magick section - go off on already established sigil magick traditions.
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