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Post by Eva Franco on 14.03.19 20:46

Hello all,

I'm Eva, I'm 30 years old, I've been studying occultism for over a decade, learning from a variety of paths, but I have a personal love for comparative mythology, religion, psychology, and traditional Witchcraft. I Accepted myself as a Vampire at the age of 16 and been understanding and refining the concept over time through vertical and horizontal experiences.


I'm glad to talk and share ideas, learn new things and be helpful whenever I can.
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Post by Lynskha on 14.03.19 20:58

Welcome.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 14.03.19 22:14

Indeed welcome. Hope you will find it a good place.
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Post by Jonathan on 15.03.19 5:24

Welcome to the community.

If you've been studying vampirism for a long time, is there a vampire tradition or path that you identify with?

How did you find this forum and what moved you to register now? If you don't mind me asking.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 15.03.19 7:16

Welcome to the forum.
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Post by Eva Franco on 15.03.19 14:58

Thank you all for the welcome.
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Post by Eva Franco on 15.03.19 15:33

Jonathan wrote:Welcome to the community.

If you've been studying vampirism for a long time, is there a vampire tradition or path that you identify with?

How did you find this forum and what moved you to register now? If you don't mind me asking.

Hello Jonathan,

Actually no, Vampirism refers more to the journey, than to the goal, it is not the end in itself so there isn't a strong identification with traditions, either be Western or Eastern, but I greatly appreciate and value the experience I had with the practices and contacts of various paths that have been passed on to me, my initiator had a very oriental approach to vampirism and put me in direct astral connection with what we can call "Vampiric egregore or entities", where I had the pleasure of learning with them.


Don't mind at all. I had seen this forum a few years ago, but I never had the opportunity to take the time to read the topics and to think about registering, I always interacted with people in person. A special friend who was part of ToV commented this week about a few forums and groups that were still discussing vampirism online and quoted this one, so I decided to register.
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Post by Jonathan on 17.03.19 7:52

Eva Franco wrote:Actually no, Vampirism refers more to the journey, than to the goal, it is not the end in itself so there isn't a strong identification with traditions

In my view esoteric traditions are not meant to be a goal but a journey. Thatís why some are called spiritual paths because theyíre not static or stagnated but require ongoing learning, adaptation and self-development. A journey inwards by quoting Asetian terminology.

What are your views concerning Asetian culture and teachings?
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Post by Victor on 18.03.19 9:06

I prefer to draw my teachings from real sentient beings beyond the layers of the astral than egregore thoughtforms and tulpas.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 18.03.19 15:40

I feel that the whole subject of egregore "teachings" is really just misguided fluff perpetuated by the newer and less credible circles out there.
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Post by Maxx on 18.03.19 15:53

I disagree. Just look at the Jesus movement.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 18.03.19 16:13

I'm talking about the whole vampire egregore nonsense started by the less credible, fluffy American organizations that push the nonsense and misinformation to the less aware. Organizations that have been discussed a lot on this board in a less than approving way.

Jesus is a different story.
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Post by Rhea Kaye on 18.03.19 16:17

I think the whole topic of Jesus as an egregore could get into an entirely different and lengthy discussion, of a different nature and significance. But the whole vampire egregore stuff gets me thinking about the ludicrous silliness of a certain charlatan who made a self-aggrandizing egregore worship movement around himself in order to get people to give him more money.
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Post by Eva Franco on 18.03.19 16:17

Jonathan wrote:
Eva Franco wrote:Actually no, Vampirism refers more to the journey, than to the goal, it is not the end in itself so there isn't a strong identification with traditions

In my view esoteric traditions are not meant to be a goal but a journey. Thatís why some are called spiritual paths because theyíre not static or stagnated but require ongoing learning, adaptation and self-development. A journey inwards by quoting Asetian terminology.

What are your views concerning Asetian culture and teachings?

Yes, exactly Jonathan, it's a living path!

I know very little about Aset Ka, being quite honest, even though I have already read excerpts from the Bible (At the time I only started the book and did not keep reading, unfortunately), it seems an interesting philosophical system especially as far as the inspiration of self-development is concerned. I am not the greatest practical fan of the Egyptian elements but I know how much they have influenced society so it can not be ignored, and of course the force of the Egyptian gods (It's unlogical to have the minor contact with one of them and not feel their power.) But not my thing personally, although I do like Hermetism ironically.

Here in the forum, the focus on Asetianism is very strong as I was able to see reading some threads, it's cool to have a place for a tradition that many do not know.
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Post by Eva Franco on 18.03.19 16:23

Rhea Kaye wrote:I think the whole topic of Jesus as an egregore could get into an entirely different and lengthy discussion, of a different nature and significance.

As mystery traditions, who study the knowledge and wisdom within sacred texts and myths Smile, yes! This forum could maybe be a great place to talk about those things. (I'll make a little search to see if anyone said something about that.)
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Post by Jonathan on 18.03.19 16:31

Eva Franco wrote:Here in the forum, the focus on Asetianism is very strong as I was able to see reading some threads, it's cool to have a place for a tradition that many do not know.

This forum does have a strong component of Asetian studies although not everyone here is an Asetianist, even among the older members. Some admire the teachings, others are passionate about it and others donít identify or agree with it. Itís all fine. Weíre usually pretty tolerant of different views and disagreement but also somewhat intolerant of bullshit and dishonesty. We're also a really diverse group of people where some are more naturally intolerant while others are very tolerant so I don't like to generalize.

Not many knowing the tradition as you said is something that I personally enjoy. Sometimes I think it would be even more beneficial to new students if the Aset Ka and its culture was less known. It used to be different in the past though, far more secretive and debated only in person at restricted gatherings. These days there are several different occult communities run by Asetianists with some degree of influence.
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Post by Maxx on 18.03.19 17:26

Rhea Kaye wrote:I feel that the whole subject of egregore "teachings" is really just misguided fluff perpetuated by the newer and less credible circles out there.

If we exclude the Jesus egregore and go to your comment on the rest, then we do have a bit of disagreement still. I have created and used egregores in the past and I certainly can vouch for first hand how real the results were. So then I think it might have something to do with the individual that creates the being. Connecting to what Victor had to say about it, my use does not include teaching sessions from the being so there would be a disconnect in that area for me.
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Post by Nightshade on 20.03.19 13:09

Are we talking about egregore in the line of the angelic spirits in Enochian magick or simply the collective group energies as used in chaos magick?
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Post by Maxx on 20.03.19 13:27

Actually, both types were mentioned.
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