Anti-socialism and the Awakening

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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by Jonathan on 19.05.09 9:15

I agree with you, ToBeSilent... I think the Asetians are naturally very inspiring and moving creatures, and that they could contribute to some forms of spiritual awakening and enlightening in people that they closely interact with at some extent, not just an aid to other Asetians' awakening.
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Post by Syrianeh on 20.05.09 2:41

Talibah,
Thank you for answering my question. And sorry for the late response. I understand what you are trying to express, as I relate quite well to this - and I am sure so do others. I think ToBeSilent has a very good insight into this when she says that what we all search for is some sort of awakening. Whether or not this is aided or inborn, or "deserved", or Asetian-induced, or otherwise, it will always be US working out OUR destiny. I think we are all here lucky enough to have found a path to walk on towards a much different place than the average person.

Daniel,
I don't think there's anything bad or wrong about talking about yourself from intimate or personal experience. I realize how hard that is sometimes and how it certainly takes some guts to do it. In fact, I wish more members would share their personal details, as it is very helpful to compare one's experience againts everyone else's. But as it is I am just glad some of us do, to whatever extent we consider possible.
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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by ToBeSilent on 20.05.09 4:57

I agree with you there Syrianeh. In no way is sharing personal experiences bad. If anything it can encourage others, such as myself, who are more shy and/or hesitant to bring forward experiences. Always learning from what is spoken about or experienced is a huge aspect of growth. The biggest tool we have at our fingertips so to speak.
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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by verboten on 18.06.10 20:35

I can relate to that (anti-socialism). I was never very social but lately I am slowly drifting even further away from society. The activities, discussions, problems, etc. of people my age and all ages bore and sometimes disgust me. I value my time spent with me and that got me some problems with friends/family. I experience an emotional hardship because of that, especially as I see my mother kinda suffering. Still I can't get myself involved with things...Even when I go out with people I tend to lose myself in my own reflections and ignore them. I would like to have someone like me ...but... well it seems I am asking for too much right now... The problem is that I have different values and ways of thinking and seeing things from those around me.

Also Daniel I enjoy your posts very much..I don't see a problem in you posting your feelings, in fact more people should do that since I believe we could all relate, learn from them and be relieved that we are not the only ones.

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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by Daniel09 on 19.06.10 11:00

Thank you, verboten, but also remember that everything is chaos. What I felt then has transformed and evolved by today, for there is no life without chaos.
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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by godofbattle on 20.06.10 21:29

I believe that some asetians awaken on thier own while others do not. I think it is more common amongst non elder asetians to need assistance more so than elders. Not to say it doesn't happen for elders that they need assistance. I just think that elders are more likely to have more connetion to their past selves being that they are a bit more extreme when it comes to their beliefs and how they display who they are.
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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by Vertigo on 03.07.10 15:41

Well, use my solution, create other personalities to mask yourself with.
People call me social but...thats just because I constantly undertake different personalities to work with others.

But the deal is, everything have to be logical for, I need a reason to be with someone somewhere.

Most people I have been with have been unable to both teach and be teached, they rarely know anything of use for me and really show no ability to learn from me.

So...social life is neither hard or easy for me, its more like something I choose to do to maintain a mask.


The conclusion: From my point of view, the reason why Asetians start to reject the "human" society may have many reasons.

It can be anything from instability caused by conflicts between the human shell personality and the Asetian core personality to the Asetians "megalomania", the feel of being superior.

Remember that this logic is built on my theories on my soul, my soul may or may not be Asetian, but my tendencies are similar and thats why I choose to throw some posts here and there on this forum.
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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by BreezyDeathcard on 04.08.10 11:06

well I imagine it would be rough on someone, I can't really say much cause i'm anti-social myself and I beleive i'm perfectly fine. I guess it depends on your personality, some people would break down from non socialization and others i guess would thrive on it. I went an entire school year not talking to a soul but my one friend but yet I became popular O.o not quite sure how that happened. but anyways socialization is a normal need for humans but i guess some people just can go without it.
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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by DCxMagus on 27.03.12 4:24

I know it's a necro thread but I was thinking about this a lot the past couple of days and low and behold found the thread.

Up until the age of 20 I practically knew everyone around me, and they knew and loved me. I literally couldn't go somewhere without running into a "friend" and knew all the cool hip places to be, I was literally a party animal. That all changed rather quickly around 21, It wasn't over night but it was very quick. I could literally give a rat's ass about how people saw, perceived, or what they though of me. I was no longer interested in being popular, in fact the idea of spending time with people like that sickened me. It was like I was blinded and now I could see, I could see all the horrible fake and utter bullshit people are and produce in order to fit in. So I began to withdraw and focus on myself, but the problem was that I had nothing to go on, I had been a part of that "scene" for so long I didn't know how to be anything else. It was hard, very hard, depression and other such things did set in and hit hard. I wasn't aware of it at the time but all this was because of the sudden loss of the abundant energy source being in the spotlight gave me.

Being vampiric complicates this because of the need for outside energy. Outside energy that you got unconsciously from being so social and the center of attention. Even when I would go to large parties with friends I wouldn't care to socialize of anyone, it was a complete waste of my time with these people, people who just a year before I was "best of friends" with. It's quite a shock to the social structure of things, a shock that has major repercussions in today's college "popular crowd". I lost a lot of "friends" because of my new attitude, not that I cared. But I did learn who my true friends are. It was only until recently within the last year I truly began to balance myself from the change and can say I am happy with where I am.

Luckily for me in my time I had gainned extensive social skills to fall back on. That coupled with a few years of acting I did while in high school, my fascination with studying social behavior of people in general and the fact that I was a restaurant server at the time of this happening, I was able to fake it quite well. But I'll be honest I was very depressed for a number of years after this change, I felt I was lost from my true family and I needed to find them. But through personal searching and studying the occult you begin to evolve past that into your true, higher self whatever that may be. You begin to realize and accept the balance of needing to connect with society but not get lost in it.

Discovering my vampiric nature, or rather the need to draw in outside energy did help with the discovery of this happiness. But the types of people the more popular sites bring in quickly reminded me too much of what I was trying to get away from in the first place. So I took what good information I could find from them and had to discovery things for my own. I found lots of differences from what I was finding to be true and what was described by people on those sites so I dismissed them and went on my own.

I said it in my introduction the only reason I actually joined this site was an urge to do so. Normally I would have just passed over the site assuming it was just like the others, I still don't know why or how I found and actually stayed at this site. I am very glad I did, I have learn a lot from the site and the discovery and reading of the Asetian bible. It has refueled my search for my higher self and that's what ultimately will pull you through the rapid change an awakening causes you.


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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by Jonathan on 27.03.12 8:14

I can very much relate with DCxMagus post, as I have experienced similar situations in my life although several years ago. Nothing that still bothers me today but those have certainly been times that led to my current balance in life which is something I greatly value.
I really understand what you mean about being tired of many people and how most care for popularity, being empty on the inside. I really can't stand that kind of people and although we all have to deal with the herd in our lives due to professional responsibilities and other social requirements of modern life I very much despise people of those sorts that live based on the opinion of others and define life based on popularity. Some eventually grow out of that high-school mentality, but others can never break free and that is a sad thing.
I understand that by reaching another level of maturity and enlightenment we stop condemning shallow people and simply start pitying them for the lack of a real meaningful life, and I can see myself heading in that direction but I'm afraid I still have a long way to go and grow before I can pity the herd as much as an enlightened being would. Anyways, nice post, I bet many here can relate with your words.
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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by Maxx on 27.03.12 10:32

May I input something for consideration here....? and only for consideration.

We all are born into this framework with an end result to accomplish. Each of us
has one central spirit assigned to help us and influence us and direct us on that path. (I have been aware of my main one from an early age and could not understand what it was and what was going on). Some have additional spirits that come in to help from time to time. Their subtle influence directs us to our spiritual path.......but whether we agree to grow and accomplish those tasks (because of free will) that our schoolwork necessitates by learning to move and understand the astral and mental realm, means this will have a lot to do with how things confront us. Even our attitude....and this is what everyone is talking about here.....Their change of attitude in life and leaving childish ways will certainly then reflect spiritual growth.

Unless one becomes familiar with operating in the astral in this life, and when confronted with the other side and seeing what is there upon physical death, there will be no knowledge or understanding on what to do to develop further.
I recently was shown this as I found my grandmother and her second husband on the other side. They are now together but they are living in the astral in much the same way they lived while here in the physical world. They are having to become familiar with that world little by little and then go for some education (this I assume), and then will have to either come again into this lower vibrational world for another life, or find a means of other education to advance spiritually.

I submit that each of you in your description of your changing of life surroundings with others, has been the best thing that ever happened to your spiritual advancement. And it is a standard operating proceedure as you grow and travel further in this wonderful school of learning.

Keep growing...........cause........if you stop growing, you are dying.

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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by DCxMagus on 02.04.12 2:45

Maxx wrote:
Keep growing...........cause........if you stop growing, you are dying.

This is very true, I had a situation today that revealed a very large truth that only recently exist in this day and age. See in the time when most of the metaphysical books we read either were written or allude to there was always the option of (or something akin to it) abandoning "normal" life in search of the spiritual. You could literally just leave, and go join a temple and be with people like minded with yourself. Doing this would limit time spent and dealing with people who had not awoken or chose not to and you would generally be able to still life a good life. Sadly that is not the case today. Unfortunately I can't just up and walk out of my job to go join a temple and know I'll be okay.

The path of enlightenment has evolved to include new steps of discovery and self change in our day and age. It seems like many people were social and then withdrew from society because of awakening, which is the natural progression. But I submit to you that we can't stop there, we must learn to re integrate with society and "play their games" but in a way that compliments our new found knowledge and skills. Awakening isn't the end of the road to dealing with the mundane, but a new beginning. A beginning where you must (sadly to say) beat them at their own game, that game in manipulation.

It's called the dark path for a reason, and the warning at the beginning of the Asetian Bible holds a much more profound and intense meaning to me now after today. Personally I withdrew to learn more about myself and later about the occult, but you are only able to withdraw for so long before you risk becoming lost in that as well.

Withdraw to learn about your self and your path, but remember it is only a hiatus from life, you can't slam the door shut anymore. Continue to grow and return to the life you lived, only this time as much more evolved being.

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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by Maxx on 02.04.12 7:29

You sound as if you are learning to apply balance to your life.....and that is a very good thing. Excellent.

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Re: Anti-socialism and the Awakening

Post by Jonathan on 02.04.12 9:52

I agree, you seem to be on the right track DCxMagus. Nice post.
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