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What is a Vampire?

Post by Jonathan on 12.11.09 10:10

In your opinions, what is a Vampire and how you describe one?

I am looking for the diversity of opinions within this community.
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by Daniel09 on 12.11.09 17:28

I personally feel that a Vampire is a being that MUST feed off of the life-energy of other beings in order to survive, mentally and physically. I do not believe that Sanguinarians and such are Vampires. Many are emotionally shacked or stressed out individuals, or likely having a health disorder of some kind. I don't think I've seen any of the "Vampires" in the Vampire Community who aren't either depressed or suffering from mental illnesses and taking many meds, usually anti-depressants.
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by ElizabethBathory on 15.11.09 10:49

I would sum up a vampire as someone who does not have a human soul--where my soul is from I'm not entirely sure, but I have a strong connection to the Andromeda galaxy. My experiences with vampirism have been very physical, and exactly like the myths say. For example, when I encounter real human blood it's like everything around me stops but the connected between me and the blood, and I can't think clearly. Low hemoglobin levels do run in my family as well as allergy to silver. I've also seen my reflection disappear--not just walking around every day, but more so when I meditate. All of these things have been happening to me long before I started thinking along the lines of actually being a vampire because I know how absolutely ridiculous it sounds.

As for being on antidepressants, it does get rather depressing to not fit in with humans because, well, you're not human. My whole life I've always felt like the things people do have 0 appeal to me, and I have no ability to form a connection with them--that is unless they also are a vampire--and vampire/vampire relationships tend to get weird in my experience.

Okay, there you go: My summation of being a vampire.
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by Lyprith on 21.11.09 4:02

A Vampire for me is someone who has to feed in order to balance their health. Not feeding won't kill them directly but the adverse health effects may but it would take alot of consious control to stop from feeding uncounsiously to reach that point.

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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by vampirozar on 19.12.09 5:45

All opinions about what is a Vampire very interesting how everyone belive and accept things for him self .

I thing a Vampire need feed in two orders :
1. To keep living
2. To restore their energy

A vampire who not feeds on blood or energy he's killing him self , the boby start to feel week , he starting to feel like someone trying to choke him for couple minutes .

We need feeding in order to live , like humans need drink water to live .
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by Saylamine on 19.12.09 13:12

I believe that a vampire is a being that needs to feed on spiritual energy because of the high energetic needs and nature of its soul. A vampire, in my opinion, has a non-human soul living within a physical human shell. I also believe that a vampire has the ability to remember its other incarnations-this being the core definition of immortality. I also believe that many non-human spirits, living in human bodies can be vampiric, and exhibit the need to feed on energy through different mediums, like blood, for example. I think this is because it may be difficult to maintain one's metaphysical energy when living in a physical shell that is not 100% compatible with the inner spirit. A star-being incarnated in a human body, to me, is a perfect example. These are just my opinions and conclusions, and I suppose anything is possible.
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by ElizabethBathory on 19.12.09 14:53

vampirozar wrote:All opinions about what is a Vampire very interesting how everyone belive and accept things for him self .

I thing a Vampire need feed in two orders :
1. To keep living
2. To restore their energy

A vampire who not feeds on blood or energy he's killing him self , the boby start to feel week , he starting to feel like someone trying to choke him for couple minutes .

We need feeding in order to live , like humans need drink water to live .

I think it's more like breathing than like drinking in that if you don't feed by choice, you will begin to do it automatically. It's not like you awaken and feed for the 1st time, you realize that you've been doing it all along your whole life.
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by Victor on 20.12.09 2:43

Most of you already know this text, and have read it many times, but I will still refer it since it stands as one of the best and most complete definitions of Vampirism and the nature of the Vampire out there.
This small essay, written by probably the most prominent and respected specialist in Vampire spirituality and metaphysics, Mr. Luis Marques, addresses many concerns that scholars of Vampirism have been dealing with for a long time when it comes to the hidden and mysterious reality of Vampirism. Certainly a central reference of easy and free access: http://www.asetka.org/vampirism.shtml
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by George Gosdas on 09.12.16 6:06

A vampire is a being that has undergone a ritual of death and rebirth.Unlike the bodies of vampires the condition of the soul is not human.Vampires don't have broken chakras they just don't produce energy on their own,therefore having to feed from humans in an instictual manner as the human lifeforce or chi carries the blueprint and imprint of the human body and is therefore more refined lifeforce than that of other living beings like that of a cat or a plant.The taking of lifeforce evolves the vampire with each drain becoming even more vampiric in nature.

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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by Ramiel777 on 12.12.17 6:55

This is what I found on the Black Order of the Dragon's website about being a vampire. Thought you guys might find it interesting. Michael W. Ford is where its at!

THE BLACK ORDER OF THE DRAGON is an inner Guild of THE ORDER OF PHOSPHORUS and is a Luciferian-religious structure based on Sorcery and Predatory Spiritualism. The concept of Vampyrism is found in AKHKHARU – Vampyre Magick as a living and breathing initiatory system.

The dark magicks of the BOTD are based on the writings of Michael W. Ford.
Entering the Black Order of the Dragon may be for those who have entered into Grade I° of THE ORDER OF PHOSPHORUS.

“We drink from the Sun at Midnight, the blood congealed under a pale moon. We drink from the ecstasies of the Qlippoth, and leave strengthened and whole. We seek to go forth in the night in the form of the beast, drinking from the waters under the Moon. We devour paradise and bath in the blood of the moon.” – BOTD Manifesto

Our brothers are Yatus, We are the People of the Lie (Druj), we are the those of the path of the coiling serpent. Our religion is Sorcery, that which is ensorcelled by our practice of Yatuk-Dinoih (Witchcraft). The BOTD is entirely spiritual in nature, aimed at the theory of gaining immortality via the psyche.

Vampire. What exactly does this word mean?

1. A Vampyre is a practitioner of sorcery which utilizes the predatory paradigm that power is gained and accumulated through draining or devouring spiritual energy via ritual and physical contact. A Vampyre does not drink human or animal blood in a physical sense. Simply put, there is no need.
2. THE BLACK ORDER OF THE DRAGON refers to its initiates as Yatus (Masculine) or Pairikas (feminine). BOTD members are Luciferians who have ascended to Grade II° and have displayed adequately their Adepthood as practicing Luciferian Magickians. Many BOTD Black Adepts are chosen from their initiatory experience within ORDO AZARIEL of TOPH.

3. The Vampyre Sorcerer will master a level of dream control, either a lucid dreaming state or a controlled one where they are able to literally “awaken” in the dream. The mind is able to attune the astral body to leave its physical body and shape itself accordingly. The Yatus or Pairikas will often shape their astral or aethyric body into a shape – wolf, bat, dragon, serpent, hag, etc.

4. The Vampyre understands that nourishment is needed for physical and spiritual survival. The spiritual aspect of survival extends with the Luciferian as the need for power. Power is grained from draining and devouring energy. The Vampyre can be seemingly invisible in taking Chi, Prana or Astral energy during daylight hours – it can be as simple as going out in public.

Study of Predatory Spirituality and Vampyrism. Initiation begins in the understanding of the Isolate Consciousness, the Vampyric Gift itself. The initiate first begins a detailed study of the AKHKHARU in theory as well as the BIBLE OF THE ADVERSARY and LUCIFERIAN WITCHCRAFT to understand how Will and Desire can be used to transform the self. The initiate will seek to understand how their consciousness is unique, what makes them who they are and how change is related to consistence of self.
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by Maxx on 12.12.17 8:27

Yes. Michael Ford created all that info for a book he sells. it was created to sell books.

This is not what a vampire is.

Thanks for all that typing exercise.
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Post by Maxx on 12.12.17 8:29

http://www.asetka.org/vampirism.shtml
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Post by Ramiel777 on 12.12.17 8:45

Im very familiar with the order of Aset Ka and have read the Asetian Bible, but have yet to delve into Michael W Fords plethora of books. Thanks for sharing

From personal awakenings and experiencesand with what is presented on the Order of Lucifer's website this is closest to what actually transpires on a planetary level as for this is a working of planetary alchemical magic which we turn what's dead and low of the self into living and high in mind and self and ultimately achieve gnosis. The key to alchemy, from my studies of Hermetic texts, is water and from what we read in the Bible when Jesus turns water into wine this can be a metaphor for mixing water with the blood and turning it into wine, or the aphrodisiac of the soul (love potion).
This is what is presented in the Black Order of the Dragon's manifesto (Dragon being the subconscious mind, seat of the soul, Pineal Gland):

“We drink from the Sun (liquid gold/Ambrosia/Nectar of the gods) at Midnight, the blood (wine/water, which is associated with the moon) congealed under a pale moon. We drink from the ecstasies of the Qlippoth, and leave strengthened and whole. We seek to go forth in the night in the form of the beast (dragon), drinking from the waters under the Moon. We devour paradise and bath in the blood of the moon.” – BOTD Manifesto
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Post by Maxx on 12.12.17 9:01

What prompted you to join here as it is obvious this group is not the same personality as the material you are typing up there?
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by A.Nightside on 12.12.17 18:17

Jonathan wrote:In your opinions, what is a Vampire and how you describe one?

I am looking for the diversity of opinions within this community.

I'm surprised I haven't answered this yet. Probably intended to keep my head down and my neck in lest I lose it, lol.

Well, it's been a long time since I've gone into full detail about what is/is not a "real" vampire in my opinion/from my personal understanding.

The over-simplified definition is any physically human individual who experiences an otherwise unexplained (medically, psychologically speaking) need to consume Meta-/Non- Physical energies and/or Blood in order to maintain their overall health and individual functioning.

However, there is much more that goes into it, and the theories (more like personal Hypotheses, not Scientific Theories) vary almost as much as any individual will. Some attribute their need to past life and reincarnation explanations (be it on this Earth or in some other place or in another form of existence), or a sort of inheritance to some degree. Others explain it as a damaged or malfunctioning system. Some consider genetics and run with the idea and hope that it can eventually be explained by science. Some claim nonhuman or specific types/varieties of souls that they attribute to why they experience their Hunger/Thirst.

For many, it boils down to a condition, though a vast majority will not agree on the term. This "condition" may be more of a state of being, naturally being whatever they are where there is truly nothing wrong with them internally/metaphysically. It also comes with a general set of symptoms that many vampires share, but some will also claim some variation, so the specifics and exacts can get cloudy and muddied. It also seems to come with some natural/innate abilities, and/or predisposition for various skills relating to energy manipulation, psionics. A vast majority, in my experience, experience some level or degree of clair abilities (most often mentioned seems to be Empathy), out of body and/or projection experiences, etc.

It is important to remember that regardless of one's personal beliefs, and reasons, that physically we are all still human.

That's about all I can think of at the moment. There's probably more.. I suppose I'm open to questions, perhaps I can get the chance to explain my personal stance on vampirism better.
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Post by A.Nightside on 12.12.17 18:21

and/or predisposition for various skills relating to energy manipulation, psionics.
Knack! I meant to use the word Knack! Though "knack" may be understating it.. =/

I'm also familiar with a large number of identified vampires having a drive and/or curiosity for much of the less mainstream religions, spiritualities and related practices (less Chritianity and more, well, everything else lol, for example. But there are plenty of vampires who are Christian, but even they have at least a finger and basic knowledge in metaphysics/energy manipulation related things..
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by Ramiel777 on 13.12.17 13:49

I'm here to learn and share what I've learned. Hopefully everyones personalities mesh and we can achieve a higher understanding of vampyres, the who, the what, etc.
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Re: What is a Vampire?

Post by Charby on 16.12.17 15:12

In a nutshell, my definition of a vampire is an inhuman, very likely immortal soul in a human body, thus making that body incapable of producing the energy needed to sustain both the body and soul.

Of course we must obtain that energy somehow if we are to thrive and reach our full potential. How we do that is as individual as each of us are as people. In general we feed on energy directly or through blood but, the finesse, the details of it are different for each of us.

We do tend to be very energy sensitive and, spiritually aware. We don't accept anything for granted, we question, explore, learn and, form our own opinions and ideas. We are very good at casting the expectations and norms of society aside, in favor of truths we discover about just about anything.

We are, as general rule intelligent, and self confident though, it isn't always apparent to others. We feel things more deeply than humans and, as a result, an off day or bad week for us can appear to be a major emotional crisis to others. Especially when our bodies are young and, newer to harboring our soul.
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Post by kaytan on 16.12.17 21:43

Maxx wrote:Yes.  Michael Ford created all that info for a book he sells.   it was created to sell books.  

This is not what a vampire is.

Thanks for all that typing exercise.
I agree.
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