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Post by Divine 277 on 06.04.10 15:24

Yes, you are right... but in some way they worship him as a god .. and frankly isn't that blasphemy???

And another thing, do they see him ass a liberator? a savior?

If so.... why don't he stop it ... if he knows what is going on , is blasphemy .... to aset .... he mite be her child, but he still should know his place in nature ?

Im not trying to piss you off.... Im trying to see how valid I can take this information .... Im NOT in anyway trying to make you mad or be disrespectful.....

But I am and always will be , honest it what i write.

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Post by Victor on 06.04.10 16:38

I never mentioned worshipping. I mentioned my views on respect, alone.

As far as worship, that is a more complex case. I don't believe most people worship him, or that worship would be the right word to use. Most admire him, respect him and many even adore him. As a friend, as an ally, or as a Master. He is no one's savior, I believe you might be confusing some things with Christianity in here. Also, even if there would be some very devout Asetian or Asetianist to the point of worship, it would certainly not be blasphemy, given that as an Asetian, and as an Elder, he is part of Her. So by paying homage to him, they are paying homage to Aset herself. This is even more valid if he is one of the Primordials, which again, is only speculation at this point. But one point is clear, out of everyone, Luis Marques would certainly be the one who would never do anything against the Will and Honor of Aset.

Another interesting point is that I have never seen Luis Marques to encourage anyone into bowing down before him. Not even once. People do it out of their own Will. And if it is their own Will and pride to bow, why would he force them not to? It would be a disrespect towards their own views, Will and honor. He may not even like it. People don't have to bow down before anyone specific to be respected among the Asetians or the Asetianists, but if they do so, they should be allowed to express their spirituality freely without judgement. And on that point, I believe Master Marques have always dealt with the situation brilliantly and very wisely. As it would be expected from a true Master...
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Post by Divine 277 on 07.04.10 0:20

I dint confuse it for Christianity.... I have Luis Marques at twitter an i see how people treat him.... But I see your point.

Luis Marques has very little influence of how his "followers" great him, and that will be for everyone self to decide.
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Post by Aleina on 30.04.10 8:17

I don't think anyone should respect Luis Marques blindly, and bow just because everyone else does, but if you think he deserves respect and would only bow if he "bows back", then save your back-pain and keep it to yourself, because in that case, a fake gesture and a selfish movement like that is worthless. I say this generally, not pointed at anyone.

I don't even think Luis Marques is comfortable with all the intense "bows" and deep forms of respect he receives, he is not here asking us to respect him. He gets respect because we wish to give it.

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Post by Divine 277 on 30.04.10 11:35

My point was that respect goes both ways ....

You can not have deep respect for someone that you truly don't know the nature of ....

I'm talking about the levels of respect, not that they should not respect him for his work and so on..or as an creature of nature....
but as I said , there are levels of respect and different types of it to...
and Well I guess he had his reasons for writing the book and I surely think that he knew what it would lead to....

And Aleina: Its not fake to to treat others, as you self want to be treated , or the other way around Wink Its curtsy....and a leader should also bow fore his people. because without his people he has nothing more then everybody else ....A leader is nothing whit out his followers......

I'm sorry if my English writing is a bit of and if it is a bit difficult to understand, Im not that costume to write English, IŽam a Norwegian and the languages are very different Wink

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Post by AndreiaLi on 06.05.10 18:00

Personally, when I bow I do that in sign of Love, Respect and Honor to the other.
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Post by Aleina on 19.05.10 22:06

AndreiaLi wrote:Personally, when I bow I do that in sign of Love, Respect and Honor to the other.

I respect that view.
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Post by George Gosdas on 04.01.17 10:54

I don't see this as a kind of worship as the word originally meant work for.I find positive that they express their desire to show him their respect.There is nothing negative about it but I don't feel like Mr.Marques would accept the term ''My Lord''.

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Post by Lynskha on 21.09.17 13:11

I was reading this post about the act of bowing, how some people believe there are some whoo exagerate in how they see Luis Marques, and treat him.

My opinion is that when something is deep, and teaches us in a profound level, it deserves our respect.

It is not a matter of blind worshipping, it is a matter of respect.

The way each individual acts, is up to them. Some feel this way of showing their love, and admiration, others may be more reserved.

I am sure that many who are admired, do not ask for it, but gain it because of what they do, and what they are.

My contact with this path is just very new. but I know how to recognize when something is serious, mature, and powerful.

I already have a deep sense of respect for Aset ka, the Asetianists and Luis Marques.

I respect, I admire, and why not say I would bow? Not because of worshipping, but because I recognize I can learn a lot from it. And when something, someone can teach us, even using simple methods, that trully deserves our respect.
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