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Post by Lizz on 26.08.08 22:26

I'm taking the advice of one of the administrators here to share my story - I'm looking for insight into this experience I had many years ago. Any comments are appreciated. I've inquired about this with others and the majority of the comments I've received discussed Aset-ka, Viperines, tantric feeding, and a possible hieros gamos.


When I was in college in Pittsburgh, a man named John approached me, rather aggressively, and we hit it off…on a sexual level only. For about a month, we’d hook up a couple times a week. I knew that he followed a pagan religion, but I didn't know what it was at the time…I was very uneducated about such matters back then, although not anymore. I also knew that he frequented a then-local magic shop called The Eye of Horus. One night I noticed a picture on his wall that at first I THOUGHT was me…but it wasn’t. She looked EXACTLY like me, could’ve been a doppelganger – it was that close. But I was never in the place that was in the background of that picture, and I barely knew this guy. When I asked him about it, he got really quiet and said she had died. A week later he introduced me to his friend Jeremy - he had an Eye of Horus tattoo next to his left eye - and he invited me to a party. John did not go. At the party, Jeremy, was very interested in me, very aggressive & flirty, etc. The other at the party kept staring at me and whispering (I’m not paranoid, they simply were). They asked me, rather adamantly, to participate in this group ritual/chant which if memory serves was right around Beltane. I said sure – I was having fun and it seemed interesting at the time. After looking around, I noticed lots of Egyptian-themed art & items. Jeremy took me upstairs, and we ended up having sex. During this, I swear that it seemed EVERYBODY downstairs was chanting - I have no idea what they were saying. The sexual part was VERY intense and I remember getting really caught up in the moment…much more so than usual, but not for any particular reason...in other words it felt "odd" mentally. I fell asleep in Jeremy’s bed and throughout the night, various different people were literally vying to just sleep in the bed with me – not for sex, just to sleep there. When I woke up, Jeremy's 2 Siamese cats, that I was warned hated everyone in the house, were snuggled up next to me (an odd side note). After this, I didn’t hear from or see John. I went to the Eye of Horus store to inquire about him. They acted very strangely, very guarded and told me that the night I was at that party, John committed suicide by jumping off a 30-story building (so it seemed). About six months later, someone from the party (who refused to elaborate in detail, but gave me some info), told me that John had apparently been stabbed in the chest and was pushed out of that building, even though publically it was labeled a suicide. She also told me that the woman in the picture on John’s wall was his ex, and she was a priestess in their group who had died. She said that John said "finding me was a gift from Horus that he couldn’t ignore.” I'm purposely leaving out some details, but suffice to say that there was no animosity towards me from Jeremy after these events.



Can you tell me anything at all about what might have been going on? Aset-ka charlatans? Misguided Kemeticists? A good old fashioned

sex-magic orgy?

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Post by Victor on 27.08.08 15:25

No possible relation whatsoever with Horus. People use and abuse the name, image and iconography of Horus, but Horus is one of the 3 Primordial Asetians, heir of the Asetian throne of Aset and Aset's first born child.

I also suspect that those incidents are unrelated with the Aset Ka, but I will leave that to be analyzed by Maktub that certainly has a deeper knowledge of how the Order may act under certains circumstances and what to expect. But my personal guess would go to charlatans.
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Re: Experience w/ Horus or possibly Aset-ka group

Post by Lizz on 27.08.08 20:01

Thank you Victor.Very Happy

Leaving aside the situation with the girl in the photo & John, maybe Jeremy was simply doing a sexual/tantric feeding?

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Post by Victor on 28.08.08 10:24

That could be possible. A sexual feeding would make you feel the whole sexual experience in a deeper and more pleasurable way, no doubts. So it makes sense. Hard to be sure anyways.
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Post by Maktub on 10.09.08 22:55

Not trying to be harsh in here but to me it sounds completely unlikely the connection that was made to Horus. It is well known that not Horus himself, nor any of his close followers, would venture in sexual practices with someone that he just met, with no deep bound developed and also no metaphysical training. And without trying to pass any judgment of anyone's lifestyle, actions or beliefs, it is even more obvious that Horus (or another Viperine) would never interact so deeply in a sexual practice, magickal or not, with a woman with such a diverse sexual background. This may sound weird to many people, but I am simply guiding my opinion by my background experience in the research of the Viperine lineage, and Viperines, more than any other lineage or any kind of beings, are deeply elitist when it comes to who they feed from sexually and who they give the honor of their sexual blessing (intercourse). They take this elitist practices to such a limit, that there is even the myth that Viperines commonly only have intimacy with virgin women. Now, if this is simply a fascinating myth about the Lineage of Horus or plain truth of the Forgotten Pharaohs, it is up to our own personal interpretation...

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Post by Chapel on 15.09.09 3:24

Maktub wrote: And without trying to pass any judgment of anyone's lifestyle, actions or beliefs, it is even more obvious that Horus (or another Viperine) would never interact so deeply in a sexual practice, magickal or not, with a woman with such a diverse sexual background.
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Doesn't sound weird to me at all.
This was actually the first thing to jump into my mind. Not that I am judging as I have a diverse history myself. But I have trouble believing that there is anything more to her story than either a group of fakes using ritual as an excuse for sex (hey whatever works I guess). If anything it sounds closer to Satanic ritualism. And what does the man being stabbed and thrown off a building have to do with anything? Why would that happen if he seemingly offered her up as some kind of gift to his buddies?
I do not know the first thing about Vampire sects or rituals but I have a little experience in Satanism. Sounds like she was at one hell of a party and things got a little out of control and perhaps the need to embellish it up might wash over whatever guilt she might have felt if any.
I'm not trying to insult anyone mind you I am just offering my humble opinion.
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Post by AnaInDark on 15.09.09 17:37

It actually does sound more like a Satanic ritual than anything deep or spiritual...
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Post by Jonathan on 15.09.09 19:28

I do agree with you both, Ana and Chapel.
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Post by Chapel on 17.09.09 11:52

AnaInDark wrote:It actually does sound more like a Satanic ritual than anything deep or spiritual...

Yes, an excuse to drop inhibition and have as much sex as possible.
And there's nothing wrong with that if that's what one is into but an orgasm should never be confused with a spiritual awakening.
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Post by Aghrab on 17.09.09 22:54

The orgasm, especially to the Asetians, is a highly energetic moment, releasing massive amounts of energy that, with the right Will, can be focused towards manipulation and magickal work. It is not strange if an Asetian would describe an orgasm as some form of heavenly moment. However, many people, when caught up in some form of pseudo-ritual, tend to allow their mind to wander off and believe that what they experience must be some form of an "awakening" and empowerment, being completely controlled by wishful thinking and imagination.
Many get deceived in this way in the occult world, in abusive hands.

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Post by Chapel on 25.09.09 11:18

I mean an orgasm is wonderful don't get me wrong but it has never given me an epiphany, only pleasure. For me it is akin to tapping into my primitive side to release aggression and anger and stress. Not often in my life was it ever done out of true love, but there have been a few occasions where it has and the effects were intense emotionally but nothing on the scale of a revelation. I don't need to feign ritual though in the pursuit of sex as perhaps some might and then yes it might find it's way into abusive hands.
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Post by Phoenix on 25.09.09 22:25

I still have the Guardian-like view that intercourse with my SO is a a metaphysically empowering experience, not just "getting off". And Guardian-like, I have no real attraction to others but my long-time soul-mate.
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Post by Chapel on 27.09.09 18:45

Well I don't have a soul mate and haven't experienced that kind of feeling in quite some time. I'm not knocking it, in my opinion it is a wonderful feeling but it is not easy to find someone to which you have such a close bond with. In my experience most people only let you down and it is best not to get attached. My life though solitary it may seem is actually more peaceful than it has ever been. The choice to not attach myself to others is key to this peace in my opinion. Perhaps I am wrong but I feel it is right for me at this moment in time. To me sex is simply a way to rid myself of stress and negative emotions. The more often I rid myself of these feelings the better.
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Post by ElizabethBathory on 24.11.09 3:01

Wow, you put yourself in a really unsafe situation. From my experience, the LHP community has a lot of crazies, and I do mean the truly harmful kind of crazy. Also, these crazies outnumber the "real deal" by a huge percentage. I would recommend being really, really careful in the future. If anything, I would say that you can only tell by someone's soul. It's not what they look like, what tattoos they have, what occult stuff they do, who they know, etc; in other words, I couldn't tell you unless I saw "Jeremy" in person, or at least a video of him or something--something to pick up the energy.
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Post by Azrael on 05.12.09 9:55

It is not who you are that defines you...
It is what you do that does...
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Post by ladymoontear on 21.03.10 10:06

Wow, I agree with everything that was commented on. I have done some strange things in my time, I am not passing jugement. But they are right, it does sound more satanic than a pagan or vampiric thing, not to say there isn't some pagan practices that don't have a sexual theme and Beltane would be it. But it is usually an initiation rite or something the priest and priestess partake in, not just anyone. Even these are held in private and not just anyone can join in. Covens are very private, at least the real ones, and something like that, you wouldn't have been involved in, you wouldn't have even been there. Beltane is a sacred fertility holiday, some Covens the children aren't even allowed for this one. However now adays that practice isn't normally done anymore. Most Covens are family friendly. Not all, but most.
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Post by Miss_May on 20.09.14 21:50

Wow, I would have to agree! This is definitely an unsafe situation.  However if I were in your position I would have done the same thing.  Wink Seriously.  

It was a very exciting story and I don't judge you at all.  Also, from my experience, a person's "Diverse sexual history" doesn't necessarily make them unfit for a deep connection spiritually.  

It really depends on who they have been having relations with.  If you are skilled in reading a person's energy, you can tell right away if they are someone who is clean enough to be with.  

Thank you for sharing such an intimate experience in your life.  I am sure that you were very shaken up by John's Murder.  I am sorry that you lost a friend and I'm sure that really hurt.

If you are looking for suggestions on how to recreate those kind of connections/experiences, I suggest you read up on tantra and practice with a partner who is roughly the same level as you or more experienced.  To work on the higher spiritual aspect, sit down with someone you trust and try meditating with them,  If you identify as a vamp be sure to let them know that you are prone to psychically draining people before you start.   Intimacy is a magical and wonderful thing, and it can come in many forms.

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