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Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by Merovigian on 06.12.11 7:23

A long time ago, influenced by information gathered from various books of magick, I did an experiment.

According to the information of the texts I read, probably the following laws of magick are true:

1. All is one.
2. We live in a Dream and the sense of reality is an illusion created by our consciousness.
3. The reality of the Dream may be changed if many entities believe that something is true.
4. By our Will we can make changes in the universe.
5. If a thought is very vivid and you charge it with lifeforce energy, reality can be made to manifest that thought.
6. If you name a physical object and you treat it as consious entitie, you can have influence over it and the object will respond to direct commands.
7. Time and distance are illusions, so if you realize it you can transcend limitations and bring changes in reality.

Having believed such laws, therefore, I did the following experiment with the purpose to alter the matter or make it burn:

One night I found a random book from my library, first I kept the book in my hands for some time in order to pass my energy to the object, then I put it two to three feets in front of me.

Initially I thought there is no distance between me and the book, that we are in the same place.

After that I sent an astral string to the object, to have complete connection with it. Then I tried to send feelings of anger and thinking that the book will be destroyed.

I began to envision that the quanta, molecules, electrons and protons of the book move faster so the move will bring ignition in the book, while thinking that the pages are starting to burn and deform. Also I tried to hear in my mind the sound of burning paper, etc.

To make the subatomic particles of matter move faster, I began using breathing techniques to send vital energy in the book. With each inhalation through the nose, i was thinking that I get out energy from my astral body, and with each exhalation from the mouth I was sending vital energy in the book. Moreover, throughout the experiment, I gave orders in the book and i treat it like a real entity, I said for example "Burn"!

Please note that several days before the experiment, I applied Lifeforce Vampirism to increase my vital energy.

After completing the experiment ultimately was unable to make the book be burned. So I thought nothing happened. But after days, through browsing I observed alterations in a page that appearred to me weird! I had this book long before and I had not noticed this before.

I have been puzzled now a lot! It was me who brought changes in the matter or not? I am curious...

Could of course this alteration in the book be from the editorial house where was printed, perhaps a factorial fault. But I don't know, if it were thus the page before the experiment, I am surprised that not noticed it.

Let me emphasize that my books are locked in my library and no one else has access to them except me. So they cannot be altered by someone else.

I want an answer from anyone who is adept in magick. I need to know if this experiment can be genuine and if we can bring changes in the matter with this kind of magick! Tell me your opinions please. Thank you! Hail, Aset!

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Re: Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by Jonathan on 06.12.11 8:47

Hello Merovigian and welcome to the forum. That was a very interesting post. You explained very well your views and how you attempted such occult experiment. I won't be able to tell you if it worked or not, as that is impossible for anyone else to judge just from your description, but I will leave up the possibility of your experience being genuine. Energy certainly can and does affect matter. Thoughts affect, change and manipulate that energy, so what you describe does not sound like impossible or crazy.
In such a case, since you have no way to verify and test the results of your experience, I would advise you to try again, change the variable of the experiment and see if you can verify again some form of result, even if not as extreme as what you expected. Magick is subtle, and if you came here describing something as extreme as the book bursting into flames I probably would find it fake.

If you don't mind, could you also go by the off topic section and introduce yourself to the rest of the community? Tell us more about your background in the occult and energy work, you also wrote about vampirism and Aset, so your own knowledge and views of Asetianism would be appropriate so we can learn a bit more about you. Thanks!
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Re: Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by Kalb on 06.12.11 14:49

Jonathan wrote:Hello Merovigian and welcome to the forum. That was a very interesting post. You explained very well your views and how you attempted such occult experiment. I won't be able to tell you if it worked or not, as that is impossible for anyone else to judge just from your description, but I will leave up the possibility of your experience being genuine. Energy certainly can and does affect matter. Thoughts affect, change and manipulate that energy, so what you describe does not sound like impossible or crazy.
In such a case, since you have no way to verify and test the results of your experience, I would advise you to try again, change the variable of the experiment and see if you can verify again some form of result, even if not as extreme as what you expected. Magick is subtle, and if you came here describing something as extreme as the book bursting into flames I probably would find it fake.

If you don't mind, could you also go by the off topic section and introduce yourself to the rest of the community? Tell us more about your background in the occult and energy work, you also wrote about vampirism and Aset, so your own knowledge and views of Asetianism would be appropriate so we can learn a bit more about you. Thanks!

I agree with you Jonathan. Good advise.
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Re: Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by Sinata Anika Asti on 07.12.11 1:51

This was very interesting...I was actually waiting to read that the book did burst into flames, lol...On a serious note, when I was about 13 I used to meditate for at least three hours a day and attempted to move things without touching them...I was able to make a piece of chalk move a few inches across the floor one day...Thought I just was hallucinating and called my friend over and did it a second time...Never was able to do it again after that time though...
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Re: Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by Daniel09 on 07.12.11 6:53

I've also experimented with matter manipulation, but thus far I cannot get the psi wheel to so much as twitch. Best of luck to you in altering your book, though. Just keep a fire extinguisher or a glass of water on hand so you don't burn your place down.
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Re: Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by witchmark on 29.02.12 15:15

Oh my! The laws, as I understand them are presented nicely. Those are the ones that I normally speak of as rules of engagements, btw. It is not impossible, but does take someone who has mastered some of those rules Wink I encourage anyone having any sort of success to follow the advice given by Jonathon. There simply is nothing wrong in a scientific approach when obtaining results. This aids a practitioner in understanding the success of it all.

Remember, that in magick, there are NO small feats! Smile For any form of magick to work it takes a will to begin with.....success means only one thing...efforts put forth were productive and no accidentals happened. Always be proud, in otherwords, give yourself credit, don't forget about, but do move forward in mastery and obtaining knowledge.

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Re: Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by Maxx on 29.02.12 16:22

If you will take notice the number of posts that have been made by the individual that introduced this subject........I will tell you that he made the same post in the past on the TOV forum, and the same post on the Dragon Rouge forum, and also the same post on this forum. I notice that the individual did not post over two or three on any fourm at all. I am certain about the above groups, and I seem to remember it being posted on the Luciferican forum in the past. Do not take this subject seriously. I suspect it is a con job.

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Re: Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by Kalb on 29.02.12 16:24

True. Maxx. Seems they want test our experience and knowledge.
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Re: Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by DCxMagus on 29.02.12 16:56

well this post is over a year old, and being this is the only post the OP made I don't think they are coming back.

All and All it really sounds like someone read some stuff online and made up a nice little story about it. There is no way you would picked up a random book, memorized every little flaw and inconsistency on every page, and then noticed 2-3 days later a NEW minor alteration in it. If it was a book you had read once a week then maybe... but a random book in your library, highly doubt it.

Besides those laws don't even hold up to the experience if you had to name something to gain control over it through magick, ultimately you would have to name each and every subatomic particle the OP tried to influence.

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Re: Can We influence Matter with Consciousness?

Post by Maxx on 29.02.12 17:21

All of his points he drew up from the TOV material...from the bible of the TOV...and they all reflected how he viewed those laws from his vantage point.

I have been watching him make these posts from day one and just waiting to see where he would attempt to take it....but he does not come back on any of the locations. As I said, he was just an attention whore that never pursued a course of action any place.

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