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Post by Talibah 11.04.09 7:38

There are countless predictions and theories of what will happen in the year 2012, from the poles switching - plunging us into obliteration - to alien/Draconian take-over (depending on which theory you read first).

I'd be interested to hear other peoples opinions on this, and of course any Asetian view on this subject too.

Undoubtedly, the Mayan long count calendar has much significance in this, and they claim (and also the Chinese) that at this time we will enter the age of Aquarius. But I am wondering if Asetian records hold anything similar???

And since many have been expressing a feeling of there being a build-up towards something imminent, I just thought I'd throw this in for something else to talk about. Very Happy
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Post by Jonathan 11.04.09 11:46

Oh thank you for mentioning this, Talibah. It is a much speculated subject at this point, the events that may come as 2012 approaches.
On a first impression, the end of the Mayan calender, the entering of the Age of Aquarius, as well as the countless predictions and theories for the year 2012, generally align with what the Asetians call the Djehuty of the Serpent. The so called Second Age of Vampires. What this new Asetian Djehuty will bring, we can't be sure and I have a feeling we are about to learn more about it as time goes by and the Aset Ka moves their chess pawns in this Game of Life. However, what we do know is that this age and time are directly connected with the rise of the Asetians from secrecy and from shadow. The end of an era of Sethian rulership, monotheistic power and metaphysical blindness. An age where the old Gods will take over the spiritual path of the Earth and of all kin, and where the Elders are said to be returning...
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Post by Vertigo 11.04.09 15:04

2012 may be the return of the Asetian glory.

Iam glad someone brought this up since ive been obsessed with this date for a week now.

I havent thought of it before. :/
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Post by Syrianeh 16.04.09 2:03

I too find this a very interesting subject. I look forward to more insight from others.
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Post by Phoenix 16.04.09 20:03

I believe there is solid scientific evidence that the magnetic poles have shifted numerous times before, but I have not heard that this event is predictable.
Other theories, like the Maya end times or alien takeovers, I place into the more speculative, unlikely to happen category. I tend to be a hard core pragmatist on these things, usually seeing too much guesswork and few solid facts. I might believe in Bigfoot, but not someone who thinks his new interpretation of a Nostrodamus quatrain says 2012 is going to be a bad year .
Personally, I would welcome the beginning of the Djehuty of the Serpent.
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Post by spyser 17.04.09 12:16

I myself is very obessed in 2012. and I have looked it up alot, and I mean alot and I think much of the Nibiru theory but I have found no precise historical evidence that it have been here before. But it is a realy interesting theory that it is the Djehuty of the Serpent behind all this and it could very well be so. And i hope that this will be the end of the Monotheistic power.
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Post by Ankhhape 17.04.09 13:03

I am not a believer of the Nibiru idea though you must be familiar with the Dogon tribe?
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Post by spyser 17.04.09 13:30

Dogon tribe? no what is that?
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Post by Ankhhape 17.04.09 14:34

I thought you said you read a lot on this subject? LOL, just kidding.
The Dogon tribe is extremely old and their ancient historical records show unprecedented proof of Nibiru and extraterrestrial visits every 3600 years (or is it 2600?) 2012 will be the next time Nibiru enters our Galaxy, with it comes 9 moons and an asteroid belt, these moons and asteroids are what many consider the cause of our Earth's devastation in 3600 year intervals.
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Post by spyser 17.04.09 15:14

Realy interesting, I had actully missed that. I think i will read a little more about Dogon.

And by the way, you had right from start it is 3600 years.
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Post by Talibah 18.04.09 6:45

The Dogon tribe is interesting. http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc119.htm

personally, I do believe we still - as a supposedly modern civilization - have much to learn from ancient tribes. They were so much more connected with the Earth and the workings of the Universe as a whole than we are today.
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Post by Ankhhape 18.04.09 10:10

Indeed the Egyptian civilization as well as others, were much more atoned to the 'Music of the Spheres' as Pythagoras wrote.

Hermes, who was really the Greek version of Thoth / Tehuti famously stated "As Above, So Below".

A reason, which I believe, for why we have a harder time harness Occult powers and why fewer and fewer true Magickal events happen, we have become, as a whole, a mass of people deadened by our desires and ego, slowly obscuring the 'The Word' and its power.

The Third eye no longer functions as it used to in ancient times, it is trapped in the temporal world

As Gurdjieff states, "The law for Man has become, to exist under involutionary influences, to remain in the state of man-machine. The way of the development of hidden possibilities is a way against God (Abrahamic).

Asetianism helps us to become again, aligned with what is important in our existence . . . Spiritual Growth.
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Post by Vertigo 18.04.09 11:28

Ankhhape wrote:Indeed the Egyptian civilization as well as others, were much more atoned to the 'Music of the Spheres' as Pythagoras wrote.

Hermes, who was really the Greek version of Thoth / Tehuti famously stated "As Above, So Below".

A reason, which I believe, for why we have a harder time harness Occult powers and why fewer and fewer true Magickal events happen, we have become, as a whole, a mass of people deadened by our desires and ego, slowly obscuring the 'The Word' and its power.

The Third eye no longer functions as it used to in ancient times, it is trapped in the temporal world

As Gurdjieff states, "The law for Man has become, to exist under involutionary influences, to remain in the state of man-machine. The way of the development of hidden possibilities is a way against God (Abrahamic).

Asetianism helps us to become again, aligned with what is important in our existence . . . Spiritual Growth.

Well said.

Hopefully 2012 will change our path of evolution through an serie of events.
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Post by Phoenix 18.04.09 13:53

I, too, agree with Ankhhape's comments. We grow more and more dependent on technology (like communicating in this forum), which has its positives, but we sacrifice our connectedness to the intuitive, the occult and that which can't be proven.
Talibah has a point. We do have a lot to learn from past civilizations, if we can truly discover what their knowledge was and not misinterpret it. We also need to consider the dualities inherent in the societies of our predecessors, not only praising and learning from their positives, but also learning to avoid their mistakes and weaknesses.
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Post by geo 19.04.09 3:16

"I see the world but not the reason" - I would love to see human kind function less as a machine... everything is lost, we are so lost right now. I wonder if we are indeed so lucky to witness the end of an Era and the beginning of another...hopefully. 2012 will be an interesting year with or without all the speculations.

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Post by Talibah 14.07.09 7:38

Thread revival warning!

Well, Hollywood has gone and done it again. They've made an entire film of the World crashing down around our heads in 2012.
Floods, volcanoes, big burny things falling from the skies, giraffes in slings under helicopters and monks being washed away...

I am sure it will be a good film. But between now and then, how many insecure people (not to mention the conspiracy theorists) are going to get the wrong idea and start a rapture of their own?
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Post by Ankhhape 14.07.09 8:04

Perhaps 2012 has something to do with Djehuty of the Serpent?
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Post by Aghrab 14.07.09 14:28

I do not see 2012 doomsday theories having anything to do with the Rise of the Asetians. The entire theory is merely based upon the Mayan calendar, even though it was very precise.


On a less important note... any of you have a feeling that the people who insanely believe in this theory will commit suicide when the day comes? Personally, I have a strong feeling that there will be people who will go to such lengths due to their strong beliefs.


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Post by Hellen 14.07.09 16:04

I rather see them 'party like in '99 '.Suicide takes much more will than people of today are able of ..
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Post by Talibah 15.07.09 3:12

When you think of how many individuals threw themselves off the Grand Canyon after the film Thelma and Louise, I think it's quite possible that some will work themselves into such a frenzy over the 'impending doom' that a rise in suicides at that time will occur.
The number of people quoting Revelations at the moment is astounding. The arguments over whether it will be a flood - because god promised not to destroy the world with water again - or some other devastation is rife.

I think that belief plays an important role in shaping a persons Will. If some believe it is the Will of their god, for all to perish on a set date, then their own Will in such matters is likely to be influenced by that belief. Not through love, or loyalty, or a specific spiritual bond...but because of a deeply ingrained religious dogma and an ultimate fear of death at the hand of such a god.

It's funny how the majority of the populus believes something bad is going to happen on the fated date of 2012. How their own fears are given purpose when faced with the vague possibility of something validating them. The end of a calendar, does not necessarily mean the end of the world, and the end of the world, does not necessarily mean, the end of life.
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Post by Ankhhape 15.07.09 6:03

Aghrab wrote:I do not see 2012 doomsday theories having anything to do with the Rise of the Asetians. The entire theory is merely based upon the Mayan calendar, even though it was very precise.


On a less important note... any of you have a feeling that the people who insanely believe in this theory will commit suicide when the day comes? Personally, I have a strong feeling that there will be people who will go to such lengths due to their strong beliefs.


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The Galactic
Alignment is the alignment of the December solstice sun with the Galactic
equator. This alignment occurs as a result of the precession of the equinoxes.


Precession
is caused by the earth wobbling very slowly on its axis and shifts the position
of the equinoxes and solstices one degree every 71.5 years. Because the sun is
one-half of a degree wide, it will take the December solstice sun 36 years to continue
through the Galactic equator


The precise alignment
of the solstice point (the precise center-point of the body of the sun as
viewed from earth) with the Galactic equator was calculated to occur in 1998
(Jean Meeus, Mathematical Astronomy Morsels, 1997).


Thus, the
Galactic Alignment "zone" is 1998 +/- 18 years = 1980 - 2016. This is
"era-2012."


This
Galactic Alignment occurs only once every 26,000 years, and was what the
ancient Maya were pointing to with the 2012 end-date of their Long Count
calendar.


Some believe this event to be a shift in Universal Consciousness, which could certainly be seen to align with the Djehuty of the Serpent which began 2000 BCE
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Post by Maxx 15.07.09 7:17

It is the first rule of magic

convince enough people that it is true, and banding together, they will create what you desire them to see.....
and create it. Energy is a creation element.

The fakirs of India are well aware of this.


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Post by Ankhhape 15.07.09 11:19

That sounds more like the definition of magic, not magick.
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Post by Maxx 15.07.09 13:29

One walks the walk and talks the talk, the other is the fakes and wannabees.

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Post by Ankhhape 15.07.09 18:06

Your point Maxx?
Honestly, sometimes you are so ON and other times you seem to me to be way OFF.
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