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Post by Maxx on 19.04.20 15:37

That is a welcome insight from a new person here on the site. I look forward to more of your family history and hope that you can give some factual accounts in such a way that we can study it.
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Post by Maxx on 19.04.20 15:43

Can you relate those two things you mention that show there is a profound difference?
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Post by Maxx on 19.04.20 16:40

also, most are aware that the real witches in Salem were the ones that held the trials. History reveals it in the opposite fashion.
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Post by Intraxvious on 19.04.20 20:00

Maxx wrote:That is a welcome insight from a new person here on the site.  I look forward to more of your family history and hope that you can give some factual accounts in such a way that we can study it.

If there's anything specific you are looking for, feel free to ask. On a background, however, my family is from almost everywhere. Most of them started out in Massachusetts but left in the event of the Salem Witch trials, 1692. The lineage kept recreating itself, and I am part of it now. Witchcraft is something that has been around us for many years. We have many family books, witchcraft books, and grimoires. You guys like to talk a lot about vampires, therefore, there is a section about it in my family's books and grimoires. But not in the spellbooks, so I believe vampires existed by themselves and were not created by witches (for whoever was wondering).
"real" witches did not hold the trials, as some of you may say. It is written about in the books. There's more to it, regarding a deal, and something not working out. Anyways, it got to a tragedy, and innocent people died. Tragic.

As for the differences,
It is very hard to put in words. I can't describe it..but when I met one, through family arrangements when you see one, you definitely will know. IF that makes sense?
There's this whole different presence, and she had described it as a different way of living. Sure they do look alike to humans...like a lot, but there are certain aspects that you can distinguish them apart. However, to my knowledge, over time they have changed...Some even say they look more humanistic-- rather intriguing-- but adaption is something that's prone by everyone. I cannot say what their differences are now...since I haven't seen one in a couple of years now. But, I can say-- at least for me,-- when I make physical contact with anyone I can distinguish them apart. I hope that makes sense. I know when you're human, but I also know when you're not. Not really sure how to put it. So, I accidentally voted for a "yes" they are human. But I was going to put "no." Yes, they can literally be exactly like a human, perhaps even do everything exactly like one. But, at the end of it, I can always distinguish with physical touch.

But, I hear that there are such things as Asetianists vampires...I remember one of the books mentioning that, but I didn't pay attention to it..since I am not one lol.

I'm not sure if that answers your questions... Y'all can always be more specific. :-)



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Post by Maxx on 19.04.20 21:22

"real" witches did not hold the trials, as some of you may say. It is written about in the books. There's more to it, regarding a deal, and something not working out. Anyways, it got to a tragedy, and innocent people died. Tragic"

On this, I can disagree. My friend has found strong evidence of what I stated. His research has always turned out to be pretty accurate. And he is a researcher that has strong credentials. So not knowing you and knowing him and his work, I shall side with what he has produced and he says otherwise. The reason was to hide by blaming the innocents and therefore hiding the deeds of the witches. It is not just my words at all. It is from a strong research individual.
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Post by Intraxvious on 19.04.20 21:29

Wait...omg. Okay, so...what is your friend saying?

I need the most information you can supply. Cuz then, that might fill in this whole, on the book.

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Post by Maxx on 19.04.20 21:38

he is a researcher that was trained at West Point. You can contact him with your shaded stories. lol. I do not believe any of your set up stories here. Another snake slithering around on the ground trying to find a life trying to find light in a spotlight. You are watched offline at other sites with your conversations.

Not wasting any more time with you. Actually, do you believe you fooled anyone at all with your fake stories in PM. not at all? This is more of the same. The others here as well. I know which ones you are connected with this character.

oh yes. I am sure it will be the whole.....hole.
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Post by A.Nightside on 26.04.20 23:10

*late to the party*

I'm not sure if Intravious believes his own claims, but his word choice (even if involuntary) reads like a fabrication. Like those silly articles about "how to spot a liar" that float around... Maybe I'm imagining it, maybe I'm just a hater lol.

It's true, many innocent people died during the trials. The trials were sad, Salem was only a tiny event compared to those of similar historically depicted events. As far as I understand, there's been little to no support of any of the victims being actual witches. Even among "witch" circles I've heard (or read) that there may have only been one true witch, or individual practicing or holding beliefs, labeled as witchcraft, among the victims.

I already forgot most of what I read in the page change, but I think I read claims of vampires not only being a thing on their own (fair enough) but are evil? This sounds very neo-pagan, neo-wiccan to me which is heavily watered down by Christian and right path ideas. Sure, I realize that many Christian traditions came from pagans, but they still have their differences too. A lot of the neo- crowds I refer to tend to adopt more of those differences into their own beliefs and practices.

I once knew someone who claimed to be a hunter of supernatural creatures, including vampires. Silly me attempted to "educate" him and he laughed in my face (didn't even at least treat my words as simply misguided opinion, point blank laughed.) and claimed that not only was I wrong, but that vampires indeed are creatures in their own right. I asked him many questions and encouraged him to teach me better. He was wiccan, dealt with herbs and crystals I believe. He partnered with a Christian who used prayer. They used to walk cemeteries at night (or so he claimed) and fight off these entities.
He never could give me a straight answer as to whether these beings were physical or metaphysical. There was some vague explanation of energy and the ability to materialize to a limited extent. He believed they were evil and dangerous.

This is what your story makes me think of. This may be (ironically?) a laughable thing to a lot of people in this kind of crowd (maybe not).

Do I believe there are Vampiric entities? Spiritual predators, leeches and other creatures that are or could be called "vampire"? I mean I wouldn't go so far as to say "believe", but I take an agnostic approach to it. I won't deny it possible, but I also feel there are those, in physical body, who are in their very essence also "vampire". I hold open the idea that vampire is a word, a label that has changed a lot over time and can potentially be placed on anything, even if we (any one person or group) don't necessarily agree that such a label fits.

I don't think the label is really all that important. It holds too much weight, conflicting information, and as said has changed a lot. From culture to culture, pop culture media, spiritual and metaphysical entities and personal interpretations. The label itself isn't really defined anymore. It can be anything and gets applied to everything. The value in using it, the intention of successfully communicating a message with it, is lost.
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Post by A.Nightside on 26.04.20 23:11

*As far as Maxx's claims to the opposite (that those holding the trials) were genuine witches. This is a new idea for me, not something I've actually heard before, so I can't really say anything to it. So I didn't (except for this unnecessary blurb Razz )
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