Is it possible to be so affected by the Asetian Bible?

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Post by Helliana 03.10.08 9:43

I can agree to both sides of the situation in this.

Yes, I said that and I said it for other reasons than just "wanting attention". If I wanted attention, I could have gotten it in other ways. But, I'm not even looking for attention.

I will say that it is quite an honor to know an Asetian indeed. My words were not meant to disrespect the AK or any Asetian or Aset, or to wound my honor. And people can choose to take me seriously or not, it does not really matter to me. At least I know what's true and what isn't and that's the main thing. In some cases it can be good if people don't believe me.

Does this mean I'll go brag and such? No, I'm not the type to do that. I was just getting that point across. But like I said, it is up to the rest of you here.

If I came across as offensive to anyone, then I apologize in advance.

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Post by Maktub 03.10.08 11:28

I believe everyone should calm down and lighten up on this subject.

To be honest, I really don't think what matters in here is who is saying the truth or not, but that we should at least try to guide ourselves by a strong framework of disclosure that was defined by the institution we so honorably seek to research and learn from.

I don't think anyone is in here to seek out attention or show-off, but although Victor's approach to this subject was maybe a bit too straight forward and heated up, in a way he has a point in what he mentioned. I would not like to see this forum falling into that kind of comments that we can see in other forums about who knows who and who has access to what.

The Aset Ka's public Remark on their policy of information disclosure is very clear, and it directly denies any sort of exposure like this in forums.

A'nen Sedjet wrote:I'm extremely proud (to a fault) to be on the private channel of the Aset Ka, in direct contact with Asetians and Luis
Directly addressing this comment, I can state that although I know well what place do you refer by private channel, that place is not an official Aset Ka Haven or channel. So what you are claiming is not entirely accurate, since you define it as a private channel of the Aset Ka, when in fact that place was defined by the AK as not administered by them.
So what I mean in here is lets all of us try to do our jobs, our researches and our development with a mature mindset, and with the Asetian guidelines in mind. I have personally come in contact with many things related with many Orders across my years of research and quest, not only on the Aset Ka as on the Red Order of Seth as well, and I never claimed in here, and never will, any connections, contacts and situations where I was with Asetians, Sethians or any other sort of Vampire. That is because I come here to share knowledge and to exchange ideas, some times perfecting my own and other times perfecting the ideas of others, or at the very least giving them another view based on other sort of experiences that they might not had the chance to achieve in this life time. I don't seek to prove or validate any of my knowledge or background in an online forum, even in such a mature and healthy place as this. That is because that is completely out of the point for such a community, otherwise we would turn this place into a vanity fair, since all of us certainly have far different, and still all valid, types of experiences in life. I am not claiming either that my experiences are in any way richer than all of the other users around here, but what I do claim is that that does not matter. We are here to exchange ideas, things that are personal to our own view and interpretation, not our contacts or connections in the field.

What I can also advise, on a personal level, is that the Aset Ka does not make these public remarks out of elitism. There are very solid reasons for them to work this way. And by that, I want to say for the new seekers out there, only now starting to delve into deeper Asetian knowledge behind the curtains that is the web or any book, for them to respect the Asetian code of silence and secrecy, for it is there for an unshakable reason. I will not go into that reason, and I will leave that up for them to find that reason by themselves... but I can easily share my own experience results on that matter, and that is that only the true silent seekers that respect the Asetian code are the ones that pass the door of fume created by the Aset Ka throughout the millennia and enter into the realm of the Immortals. For those that can read my words on this and make sense out of them, all I am left to say is... you are on the right track.

So I ask that both parties involved in this discussion would read calmly what I said and lets all move over this.

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Post by Victor 03.10.08 11:58

A'nen Sedjet wrote:Well gee whiz . . . has this forum now turned to politics?
Not politics, just as Maktub so eloquently stated, it is the Asetian code. Period.

Talibah wrote:For those of us that have long clinged to the unexplicable feeling of being 'lost', the acknowledgement that the AK is real, serves as both an encouragement and affirmation that we are not as alone as perhaps we thought we were. Sometimes inner feelings of "I believe it" are not enough to go on...
I can understand your thoughts and feelings, on how getting a more real connection with something like that can not only validate your own beliefs but incentivate you to go forward in your quest. That is plain truth, however, not always those "proofs" or forms of validation can come as directly as we expect, or at all, in many initial phases of research and development. See it like an initiatory path... you must walk in blindly for long before you can actually look down and see what is beneath.

Maxx wrote:
I appreciate the fact that someone, and more than one, knows the author first hand and can attest there is a person there that is reachable and not just in the shadows like so much crud out there today asking you to believe it just because they say it is so. Humbug. That is the new age postition and is completely laughable.

Again, I appreciate the acknowledgement. Maybe my position was such that it was good that the Aset Ka was found to be a real goup if only from the very exterior of its presense. I had never heard of it before I found this site. This whole experience was certainly worthwhile to prove it being a solid group and not just a name from the past someone is using as a front for their new age advancement as has been shown here regarding one or two other sites. I certainly think the Aset Ka would appreciate not being grouped in with those other outlandish groups.
Again, I can understand your words and fully agree with them. But still, my former comment to Talibah still applies.

I can respect if you all disagree with me, but my comments were made with the most honorable of intentions, and I still strongly believe that many of you will come to agree with me, sooner or later.
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Post by Ankhhape 03.10.08 12:00

I would like to call your attention to page 20 of the AB, last paragraph.
But in any case, the time is now to let this go, as it is not of any value to anyone's progress here.
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Post by Karnath 04.10.08 16:25

Em Hotep.

After reading all the topic, I must say that Victor's attitude really caught my eye.

It's quite obvious that if A'nen and Helliana have in fact some contact with the author and/or other Asetians, they are not respecting the code of secrecy officially demanded by the Aset Ka. I don't think any of the users of this forum need to be pointed out with the Remark the Aset Ka provided in their sacred website.

This is not what caught my eye. Now, this it was:

See it like an initiatory path... you must walk in blindly for long before you can actually look down and see what is beneath.

For anyone needing proof... Simply tame yourself, and follow Your intuition. Proof will ruin everything. Evolution is a dark, blind, narrow path. Careful not to step away.

Answering A'nen Sedjet:

First, I really think it's not time to let this go, because you still haven't found enlightenment on the subject. So, what I might have said and still might say, can be of value to someone's progress here (you, maybe?).

Second, the last complete paragraph of the 20th page of the Asetian Bible states that some knowledge was already known by a more private community with contact to the Asetians (I think this is the part you want us to read). How can you know it's the community you claim to be into that the AB refers to? The author might mean a closed community, close to the Asetians, with access to the inner texts. I suppose you will not claim to have had access to the inner texts of the Order. If you did, I really hope you won't tell us, or we will surely laugh at you.

All this said, I also want to say I don't want to be rude. But this is highly annoying, for we can read this kind of claims all around the web. Please, don't be offended.

Best regards,
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Post by Maxx 04.10.08 17:38

I think 30 years from now, if you happen to look back on how you worded this, I am sure you will find a different choice of words. But today, it sounds like you bought a new pair of shoes and they are one/half size too small. Anyway, we all will continue to get along no matter what.

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Post by Ankhhape 06.10.08 9:36

Who was that directed towards Maxx?
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Post by Maxx 06.10.08 18:40

LOL. Anyone that might feel it belongs to them.

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Post by adrenochrome_rush 29.08.22 13:18

I remember when the Asetian Bible first came out. I purchased it immediately. But then I wasn't sure if it was real. I ended up gifting it to Egyptian Copts for them to decide if it's truly Kemetic or not.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth 29.08.22 13:41

What did the Egyptian Copts say? I doubt a Christian group that fundamentally opposes polytheism or Paganism (although Asetianism may or may not be considered in that way even if it aligns much with that worldview) and older mysteries can determine the accuracy of this, as they aren't actual adherents of the ancient Kemetic religion in any genuine way, although some may argue they carry remnants of Ancient Egypt within their language and small parts in their veiled Christian mythology like with Mary and Jesus/Isis and Horus, but hope they came to some interesting conclusion if you're willing to share it with us.
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Post by Nightshade 29.08.22 13:52

Well the Order of Aset Ka has Egyptologists among its ranks, not to mention that both the Asetian Bible and even more so the Violet Throne are thoroughly sourced with an academic bibliography, so their ancient Egyptian background is definitely solid, which is actually quite uncommon to find in occult Orders. It's certainly rare in contemporary occultism to see anything near the Asetian level of historical accuracy and scientific backing that we get in most works brought to life by the Aset Ka.
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