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Post by Xedoc 08.02.10 9:47

Greetings.

I'm trying to get some information about the connection of the Asetians and Keepers with Tutankhamon. I also know there is no information about this subject on the Asetian Bible. I'd like to know your opinions about what kind of relation could or can exist with Tut and the Asetians and Keepers. I'm sure a lot of you already studied the subject so, i'd like to see you sharing this kind of information if it is possible.
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Post by Victor 08.02.10 18:27

Many people speculate about Tutankhamon being a key element in the secret plans from the Aset Ka to destroy Akhenaten during the Eighteen Dynasty of the Ancient Egyptian Empire. Is a well known fact that Akhenaten (born Amenhotep IV) was a Sethian, who brought the spiritual elements of the ROS into mainstream religion, being the responsible for the first monotheistic cult in the history of mankind. The small steps that later gave birth to religions like Christianity, Judaism and Islam, the modern day power of the Red Order of Seth. The Sethian legacy lingers until today, from the secretive plan that was pushed forward by Akhenaten. All of this was turned around through a silent plan from the Asetians, who by the hands of Tutankhamon sent Akhenaten's reign to dust and brought the old tradition back to the people of Egypt. This clearly points that Tutankhamon was an Asetian. Personally, I doubt he was a Keeper, given that he raised as a Pharaoh, which points to a Viperine or Guardian in power. However, the fact that he died so young, and was apparently so physically fragile, points to being a Viperine. But since you mentioned Keepers, it is important to keep in mind that the Keepers certainly played a great role in this counter-strike of the Asetians and their retake of power. It is obvious that such a mischievous plan was not accomplished by Tut alone, but had support of a large and complex net of spies, warriors and assassins. For certain that Tut had a close group of loyal Keepers under his command, that allowed him to change a nation so swiftly back into truth and giving a hard strike on the Sethian power, like their capital in Amarna that was literally destroyed by the power of the Asetians, their army and their allies.
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Post by Syrianeh 09.02.10 3:00

Thank you for another informative and insightful post, Victor.

So, on this subject, what do you think of Tuthankamon's alleged murder (as some historians claim, at the hands of Ay and Horemheb, his Vizier / General respectively)?

It is said that Ay and Horemheb controlled Tut from the time he sat on the throne as a young boy. Then, after Tut's untimely death the elderly Ay governed Egypt for some time. After his death, Horemheb married Tut's sister in law and became Pharaoh. Apparently, Horemheb was quite devout of Horus and carried on Tutankhamon's efforts to reinstate the Horus Throne in power.

It seems to be contradictory that Horemheb / Ay would murder Tut if the latter was an Asetian and they were equally followers of the Asetian tradition; which makes me think that perhaps they were the actual Asetians and Tut was their instrument to remove Sethianism from power...
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Post by Syrianeh 09.02.10 3:19

... on the other hand, if Tut was not murdered but died of natural causes (gangrene to the leg), as some other researchers claim, then perhaps Tut could very well be a Viperine as you say and these two figures (Ay and Horemheb) most likely Guardians.

It is amazing how History draws up hidden parallels to the secret struggles going on even today.
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Post by Jonathan 09.02.10 9:35

Syrianeh, in one of the latest studies done on Tut's mummy from the National Geographic team, the forensic specialists reported that there was no indication of murder in Tut's case, but that the small signs that gave rise to the rumors of assassination were connected to the mummification techniques and previous injuries that were already healed at the time of his death. So if their conclusions are correct, I am more inclined to see Tut as an Asetian that just died young, which like you both said, could connect to a physically fragile Viperine.

Thank you both for this great debate and insight, very interesting information!
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Post by Syrianeh 17.02.10 2:31

You were right, Jonathan. The full result of the scientific research was published yesterday:


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/02/100216-king-tut-malaria-bones-inbred-tutankhamun/

It seems that what killed him was a combination of inbreeding (DNA samples would point to Akhenaten and his sister, Ankhensenamun, as his parents), malaria and bone necrosis probably caused by a fall.

If Tutankhamon was indeed the son of Akhenaten, the Sethian Pharaoh, (as I understand it, King Tut was named "Tutankhaten" before his rise to throne) then a lot must have been at work surrounding him in order to return the (Asetian) Horus Throne to power. It would seem surprising that a person such as Tut, with all his physical and most probably mental shortcomings, would be an incarnated Asetian. It seems more likely that his mentors had much more to do with it...
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Post by Jonathan 17.02.10 10:07

Nice article, thanks for the link.

It is all very interesting to imagine and speculate...
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Post by Kotaro 23.02.10 20:37

Thanks for the link, Syrianeh. Been gone for a bit and catching up.
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Post by Jonathan 24.02.10 4:41

Kotaro wrote:Thanks for the link, Syrianeh. Been gone for a bit and catching up.
Welcome back. Hope to have you around more frequently now...
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Post by Kotaro 24.02.10 10:07

Jonathan wrote:
Kotaro wrote:Thanks for the link, Syrianeh. Been gone for a bit and catching up.
Welcome back. Hope to have you around more frequently now...

Thank you Jonathan.
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Post by SetAzEl 24.02.10 20:41

Victor wrote:Many people speculate about Tutankhamon being a key element in the secret plans from the Aset Ka to destroy Akhenaten during the Eighteen Dynasty of the Ancient Egyptian Empire. Is a well known fact that Akhenaten (born Amenhotep IV) was a Sethian, who brought the spiritual elements of the ROS into mainstream religion, being the responsible for the first monotheistic cult in the history of mankind. The small steps that later gave birth to religions like Christianity, Judaism and Islam, the modern day power of the Red Order of Seth. The Sethian legacy lingers until today, from the secretive plan that was pushed forward by Akhenaten.

If the Setians spiritual bases is rooted in some sort of monotheistic system, then who is the one god, Seth? And how does this one god relate to Aten or was Aten a veil for something else?
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Post by Jonathan 25.02.10 12:10

SetAzEl wrote:
Victor wrote:Many people speculate about Tutankhamon being a key element in the secret plans from the Aset Ka to destroy Akhenaten during the Eighteen Dynasty of the Ancient Egyptian Empire. Is a well known fact that Akhenaten (born Amenhotep IV) was a Sethian, who brought the spiritual elements of the ROS into mainstream religion, being the responsible for the first monotheistic cult in the history of mankind. The small steps that later gave birth to religions like Christianity, Judaism and Islam, the modern day power of the Red Order of Seth. The Sethian legacy lingers until today, from the secretive plan that was pushed forward by Akhenaten.

If the Setians spiritual bases is rooted in some sort of monotheistic system, then who is the one god, Seth? And how does this one god relate to Aten or was Aten a veil for something else?
No, their spiritual system is not montheistic. That is merely part of their religious scam to control the masses. Sethians know the Truth, like the Asetians. They know the Gods and the Universe. They invented montotheism as a form of control, they don't believe in it.
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Post by SetAzEl 26.02.10 0:35

Jonathan wrote:No, their spiritual system is not montheistic. That is merely part of their religious scam to control the masses. Sethians know the Truth, like the Asetians. They know the Gods and the Universe. They invented montotheism as a form of control, they don't believe in it.

Yeah, that makes sense.......thanks for the clarification......
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Post by AndreiaLi 08.09.10 18:10

I belive Tutankhamon was as Victor said an Asetian that was sent to ruin his father "plans". I also share the view of him being a very strong Viperine. In spite of that, the mysteries surrounding is death still remain. How had he died? Did the Sethians found out about him and murdered him, or did he died in consequence of an accident/illness?
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Post by iMaven 12.09.11 5:10

so do you guys actually think an asetian can be born out of inbreeding?

since inbreeding causes huge problems.. it seems like it's obviously an abomination of what we're intended to do.. and it doesn't seem like something special like an asetian would align with.. just my first thoughts..

my dog is inbred multiple generations. however, his brothers and sisters are all black/spotted/miscolored. he has a perfect pattern and a golden/vanilla coat. lol but he is inbred so i wonder if he is really unintelligent.. or if inbreeding has done anything to him at all! when we took him back to visit his brothers/sisters of his litter, they were all half his size! no joke! maybe it 's because we took better care of him though, AND dewormed him..
or maybe he's an anomaly and is special.
i wonder..

neways asetian seems to be the opposite of what an abomination would be and inbreeding seems to give birth to just that :abominations.
i guess it doesn't have to matter?


does blood lineage play a role in being an asetian? sorry if these are ignorant questions but they seem pretty logical to me..

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Post by Jonathan 12.09.11 6:38

Don't get me wrong, but you're missing an important point in Asetianism. To be an Asetian has nothing to do with genetics or biology. It's a spiritual thing, it means you have an Asetian soul instead of a Human soul.
Genetic lineage and parenting have nothing to do with it. I'm sure most Asetians are born of human families, Christian or otherwise. It has no influence. Of course Asetians don't practice inbreeding, but if some culture in the past practiced it then it has nothing to do with it. It's all about choosing the body where the Asetian will incarnate. That's just a body, just matter, an Asetian is much more than that. Asetianism is about spirituality.
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Post by iMaven 12.09.11 6:57

yah that was my first guess.
But I thought that certain rulers and their subsequent sons in egypt were asetian. meaning lineage.
or did i miss something again.


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Post by Jonathan 12.09.11 6:59

Yes, they were. Some pharaohs were Asetian, as I believe other pharaohs were Sethian. Still, I don't think that was related to their biological lineage but to universal power over the reincarnation cycles.
Maybe someone else can explain this better than me.
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Post by iMaven 12.09.11 7:05

Well now i was j/w if certain bloodlines had more asetians than others.. which seems to be the case for pharaohs back then. that's what i was curious about.

after what you wrote, i don't think if an asetian had a child then it is automatically an asetian. that's what you're saying DOESN'T happen right?

jw if that's what happened though, and if it was more often than not ( that an asetian child inherited an asetian soul. it seems as if that is the case. probably due to power held in that family?? and that's why they chose that pharaoh's child as a vessel?)






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Post by Jonathan 12.09.11 8:17

Well that might be possible, but I wouldn't know enough to be able to tell.
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Post by ChristinCP 30.08.12 15:19

Victor wrote:... Personally, I doubt he was a Keeper, given that he raised as a Pharaoh, which points to a Viperine or Guardian in power. However, the fact that he died so young, and was apparently so physically fragile, points to being a Viperine. But since you mentioned Keepers, it is important to keep in mind that the Keepers certainly played a great role in this counter-strike of the Asetians and their retake of power.

What do you think about his physical appearance?
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Post by Victor 30.08.12 16:54

ChristinCP wrote:
Victor wrote:... Personally, I doubt he was a Keeper, given that he raised as a Pharaoh, which points to a Viperine or Guardian in power. However, the fact that he died so young, and was apparently so physically fragile, points to being a Viperine. But since you mentioned Keepers, it is important to keep in mind that the Keepers certainly played a great role in this counter-strike of the Asetians and their retake of power.

What do you think about his physical appearance?
I think that it's mostly irrelevant.
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Post by ChristinCP 30.08.12 17:25

His skull is irrelevant? Or should I say the depictions of his skull and many other egyptian skulls is irrelevant? The elongation? Sirian.
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Post by Victor 31.08.12 6:48

I was referring to his physical appearance in general. Especially because of how those details get saved from previous lives in the Akashic records can be somewhat elusive or even deceiving. The case of his skull, along with the ones from other Pharaohs, may be of interest.
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