psychic VS psychic vampires

I've read about psychic vampire in many websites. It's a kind of vampire in this new age. And in some websites, i also read about everyone can be a psychic after certain practices and they can do the same to will life energy from others. Then i have a question. Will a normal psychic becomes so used to the "extra supply" of life energy from others that they eventually have the "need" to will life energy from others? In another word, Will a psychic becomes a psychic vampire if he or she get too obsess with the extra supply of life energy???

Hello Black Tarragon:

Non-vampires can practice energy manipulation and many do.
Reiki & Qi Gong practitioners come to mind immediately.
Others also practice a form of vampirism which would be better termed Predatory Spiritualism found within Luciferic circles.
Non of these practices will leave create a vampire out of you.

I hope this helps and I'm sure others far more knowledgeable about this will also comment here.

Em hotep
Ankhhape

Black Tarragon,

I subscribe Ankhape's words. You cannot "make" yourself a vampire. You could become somehow psychologically dependant on the energy you feed on, but a non-vampire certainly has their own source. It will always be a surplus, though if you are sensitive to it the "high" is good enough to keep going back for more.

Psychics and psychic vampires are not related with each other. What I can tell you about psychic vampires is that... there is no such thing. This is a term some people use to identify with the type of feeding that they prefer. For example a psychic vampire does not blood feed, if he did, then he would be called a “sanguinarian”. But it is stated in the AB that a vampire is not Psychic not Sanguinarian, a vampire is both. A vampire can both blood feed or feed psychically, this only depends on his own personal taste, and of course, his metabolism.

Aghrab

i disagree.. if a psivamp feeds on the same person continuously , they wound the individuals subtle body to the point where they unintentionally behave in a vampiristic manner for a short time to heal and normalize themselves, commonly refereed to as sympathetic vampirism...which is definately what comes to mind when someone utters the hollyweird vamp phrase "half -vampire"...


-Lono
founder psivamp.org

Sympathetic vampirism is a condition and secondary effect, not vampirism itself.
Someone "behaving in a vampirisctic manner for a short time to heal" is not a vampire. He is is someone acting vampiricly out of an underlaying temporary condition. That is called a human, not a vampire. Vampirism is permanent and not defined by the act of draining.

I define vampirism as the "need"
not the ability.
Always have, always will.

-L

lono676767 wrote:I define vampirism as the "need"
not the ability.
Always have, always will.

-L

Then anyone can be a vampire, according to your own definition, since in times of need, anyone can act vampiricly. No wonder we get more and more kids everyday saying they are vampires. I wonder where the lifestyle community will end, being lead in that way.

Well, in here we see vampirism as something spiritual and a condition of the Soul...

a temporary condition, is vampiric
"sympathetic" vampirism, is vampiric

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I too see it as a condition of the soul.
a spiritual condition..
However I do not see it as a religion.
it also if you agree with some other beliefs like undead go merging rituals, Ardeth (made vampire) rituals, or even symbiont merging rituals.

If you have a need, and you can ween yourself off, than you have nothing more than an energy addiction...which is what i mean when i say "ability" versus need....the ability is psionics... "the need" never ends.

There is obviously energy play in every conversation, a give and take...that is not vampirism, though it can seem vampiric, at moments.

I'm a negative energy feeder....so in moments such as these, i feel right at home.

The psychic vampire.org logo, is in itself, and its own right, an Eregore composed of the group will and intent...It too has vampiric, "protective/preservation" tendencies; though admittedly being created.

-Lono

Sympathetic vampirism is vampiric but does not make anyone a vampire.
I just don't agree with you, which is fine. We have different opinions.

I do agree that vampirism is not a religion though. At its core, vampirism is a condition of the Soul and a metaphysical need. However there is a deep spirituality connected with the nature of the vampire and that is Asetianism. Now does this make Asetianism the worldwide definitive religion for all vampires? It surely does not.

See, this is what you are not getting...

We are a true community around here, we're scholars of the occult, practitioners of high metaphysics. We do not want to take part in any of those roleplaying communities... angels, fairies, phoenixes and hybrid vampires half fairy and half angel... all that is pure nonsense. Sure, people might enjoy to dress up as furry animals, that is their own problem and I have nothing against it, whatever makes them happy... but lets stop mixing it all with metaphysics, spirituality and the occult. This is a serious thing and we take it very serious around here. That is why we are usually considered to be the most mature forum on the web that deals with vampiric metaphysics, because we don't take the random drama and don't play those real-life games of science-fiction and fantasy. Roleplay all you guys want, but not in here. Please take the fairies and the angels out, we are into real stuff around here. Thanks.

whats that bubbahotep?
actually...you and and your philosophies sound identical to the Cult known as the
"temple of the Vampire" and their philosophies..And seemingly have the same cult energy..


as for your disbelief in otherkin...I can say its just plain ignorance on your part...and leave it at that... Though i go agree on the furry part...

This forum and The Asetians in general arent worth my time, or further intelligence gathering. Any shadow organization without the courage to have one officially recognized head/lead member, lacks the courage of their convictions...and is a fear or weakness based cult, preying on newbies....the only way to obtain information on asetians...is to buy the book..different levels like a pyramid scheme......where have i heard that before?...oh yes...the ToV!

..and like them...your people arent welcome on my forum, as i now view ToV and asetians, as a dangerous cult.

-Lono

lono676767 wrote:as for your disbelief in otherkin...I can say its just plain ignorance on your part...

There is no “disbelief in othekin” here. We are aware of the existence of Lycans, Draconians, Keepers etc., just not nonsense fairytale... Anyways, it sounds quite hilarious and sick, someone like you calling ignorant to someone like Victor. Ironic.

lono676767 wrote:This forum and The Asetians in general arent worth my time,

So, why are you still here “wasting your oh-so precious time”?

Besides, as if someone like you has anything more intelligent to do than selling glow-in-the-dark vials and pretending to be an occultist with a world of knowledge in hand. You are a comedian, no? Perhaps you are better off with that...

lono676767 wrote:Any shadow organization without the courage to have one officially recognized head/lead member, lacks the courage of their convictions...

The Aset Ka sure has a well known, respected, loved and honored leader – Master Marques. But seriously, can you imagine the Aset Ka appearing on TV shows and having all sort of personal information online? Not only they are above that, but they also do know that the best weapon is secrecy. This is why the Aset Ka is so feared among the inferior vampire orders... they are unpredictable. Unlike what I have witnessed from you and your side, where all I see are moves that anyone, even without intuition, can see coming. Predictable...

Aghrab

Of course you view the Asetians as dangerous. It is more than obvious, for a long time now, that you and most of the wannabe community is acting all insane out of fear of the Aset Ka. All you people are so scared from seeing your own convictions shaken by groups that present far more mature and real concepts in the subjects that you are so used to play the masterminds, that you just lost it. That is even more obvious how everyone comes to accuse the Aset Ka without even doing their background research, not knowing the smallest bit of what they are talking about and just jumping out insultingly out of fear. Laughable... but that's how humans tend to be.

Oh and I never said I don't believe in otherkin, I rather do. But angels, fairies and hybrids? Get real, I am not into any Spiderman cults as your community.

As far as people not being aware of the true masterminds and leaders behind the AK's Higher Magisterium, I don't see anything "oh so scary and frighting" about that. Did you ever heard of the expression secret society? Well, google about it and educate yourself. Your people are so used to your greasy parties and fantasy plays that you even forget the real occult world is not a bunch of kids saying crap on TV and partying. Most covens, orders and occult organizations are secretive and private. You don't know their leaders. So please go back to the goofy play and leave the real scholars to debate.