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Post by Karnath on 19.06.08 6:41

Em Hotep.

I'd like to know about one of your experiences on Astral Projection.


1. How you managed to do it, and your difficulties.

2. What happened.

3. Your interpretations of what happened.

4. Your fears if any.


For starting, I'll tell you about one of my Astral Projection experiences, which was around 1,5 years ago.

I had been practicing Astral Projection as well as I could at the time. The difficulties I was facing were related to achieving willingly the right state of mind to do it, the so called "Alpha State" or "Hypnagogic State". I didn't have the necessary skill to get into that state of mind any time I wanted. Since my childhood I've been sleeping in the bed right beside the bed
of one of my kindest biological family members: my brother. At the time I was also reading on Astral Vampirism, and was expecting to try this skill the next time I would make an Astral Projection. And I did so:
After achieving the right state, I projected into the astral, and moved myself to my brother's bed, and I simply fed. Something really interesting, is that I didn't want to harm him, so I was very conscious feeding on him, but also from the perspective of my physical place. I was both on the astral, feeding on him, and looking at him physically from my bed, to see if I was harming him.

Looking behind it was a rather silly happening, but it was very enriching. I eventually discovered more about the subject. Smile

I'm looking forward to read about some of your experiences.

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Post by Karnath on 19.06.08 7:13

I forgot to say:

Helliana, O Helliana... I'm waiting. Twisted Evil

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Post by Helliana on 19.06.08 8:29

I see that you are, dearest Karnath. So this once I'll enlighten you.

The only time I was aware of entering the Astral was a couple of months ago. I wasn't asleep at the time, but awake. I was talking with my partner about some things and it just..happened. I could tell that my soul was in the Astral because it felt at home but in a way...distant, like it wasn't yet still here in my body entirely on this plane as usual. I was shocked at first and then I sensed my partner was there as well. We probably weren't completly in the Astral but probably being close.

I still can't explain how we both got into the Astral that way. Could be the state we were in and all and thinking deeply about things. Suffice to say while we were there we....took advantage of the opportunity to be together, I will not go into detail.

My fears...mmmm....at the time I didn't feel any fears because I was with my partner. If I did have any it would probably be of psychic attack.

So there you have it, hope you all can pull anything from that and I hope that satisfied your cuirosity, dear Karnath. =]
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Post by Aghrab on 19.06.08 10:25

Those are quite interesting experiences. It can be extremely difficult to master astral projection, I believe.

Can you tell me, Karnath and Helliana, what you each used, to teach yourself, and learn astral projection from?

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Post by Victor on 20.06.08 11:41

I project to the astral realm on a regular basis. I use deep meditation with projection intent and Will to get out of the body. I do many things while on the astral, but mostly I go visit astral locations, explore the spaces and play with the energies around me. Sometimes I interact with other identities too, but I try to avoid it.
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Post by Ankhhape on 20.06.08 11:48

Em hotep Victor,
I am enjoying your posts immensely (especially the Soul post).
Can I ask you if there is a definitive book or some source available that will explain and train you for entering the Astral plane and other planes of existence?

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Post by Victor on 20.06.08 12:05

There are several books and sources that rely on a multitude of techniques for astral projection. It is a pretty vast subject and many people accomplish it differently. I would never say there is a definitive technique or right way to enter the astral. Use whatever suits best for you. But don't confuse dreaming state with astral realm, many people do that. Same goes for imagination. The astral is not within our minds, so try to make a clear distinction between what your mind can imagine and what it is a true projection.

Robert Bruce has a nice book called Astral Dynamics that is widely used on astral projection training. You can read it, but still most of what he says on it you can find it online for free if you have the time to properly research it and try it out. The key in astral projection is practice. It takes effort and especially lots of time to master. Some people accomplish it more easily and others never find a way to do it. We all have our skills, and they vary greatly from one to another.
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Re: Astral Projection Experiences (Level: Basic to Medium)

Post by Karnath on 25.06.08 19:48

Hello again. I'm sorry for taking so long to answer, Aghrab.

Although I always had some usual experiences at night, some natural skills, Robert Bruce's online guides were very valuable. He hasn't a very deep writing, not very spiritual... But he is useful. But only with training can one master this skill.

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Post by Aghrab on 29.06.08 11:23

Hello again Karnath.

I have read the online guides for astral projection, from Robert Bruce, as you said. I can agree that his writing is not so deep or spiritual, but it is quite helpful for anyone only starting to learn about this subject.

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Post by Helliana on 29.06.08 14:24

Aghrab wrote:Those are quite interesting experiences. It can be extremely difficult to master astral projection, I believe.

Can you tell me, Karnath and Helliana, what you each used, to teach yourself, and learn astral projection from?

Aghrab

I'm not really sure how it happened, I guess something to do with my partner was part of it. I haven't got to the astral projection field yet as I'm learning other things right now, but When I get there I'll be sure to come back here and tell what I've learned and my experiences. =]
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Post by Maxx on 01.07.08 8:32

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Can you tell me, Karnath and Helliana, what you each used, to teach yourself, and learn astral projection from?

Aghrab[/quote]

Dearest Aghrab,

Your question indicates that you possibly might have experience in OBE techniques. How successful have you become with your attempts to leave your body and, at this point, how much control would you say you how have in your travels? (I guess I sound like the very first post that raised the question, don't I)

Also, I want to mention the Monroe Institute. Their program has largely been succussful with in-house direction help as well as selling tapes and CDs which help your astral separate using different tones in each ear. Robert Monroe, now deceased, was responsible for this study and his books are all a result of his efforts regarding study with these different sets of tones.

Also, this being my first post after joining this group, I would like to say I appreciate the tone that has been set here. All seem very polite and unlike other boards I have found, there does not seem to be an attempt of the pecking order here to take over. All seem to be polite and interested in learning from each other. I will also say that I am older than dirt but I still realize I could learn from a youngster. Again, I appreciate this forum.

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Post by Maxx on 01.07.08 9:24

1. How you managed to do it.

I seem to have more succuss with OBE by sitting up in a lounge chair with my head supported by a pillow and a sleep mask to darken the room, wether is is day or night. I have sleep apnia so sitting upright is best for me. About two in the afternoon I decided to try to focus and travel to a female person I know in prison in Calif. Sitting crosslegged, I did relaxation technique similar to first stages of hypnosis. Intense and constant focus is very important. Next thing I see is my astral body flying out of my physical all in an instant. I was then aware of being in a stairwell in a bldg. viewing the female washing windows and looking out over the prison yard. I then see her leaning up against the wall next to bunk beds viewing a magazine or book showing clothes. She seemed to be spending more time on a red print dress. Next thing I am aware of is that I am standing in front of a group of females who were looking at me strange. I asked where this female was as I did not see her. One replied to me that a guard had sent for her and she had gone to see the guard. I then am aware of myself back in my physical although I did not see this process. Looking at the clock, I see that 20 minutes have passed.

3. Your interpretation of what happened.

The next day a person was visiting in my home when the phone rang. It was a collect call from the prison and the female calling me. In the conversation I began to ask what she did yesterday and her reply to me of all three views I had made of her. She freaked out as I told her about her spending time over the red print dress as she really liked it. She verified all three views and is now frightened of me. LOL. I cannot explain the situation of the group answering my question about where she was. (I have in the past visited others whereby I have read their mind about their thoughts without asking anything of them then asking their mate questions about the thoughts coming into being which were verified. This tells me that there are no secrets from the Vampire at all as reading the mind can be as simple as the OBE.) In my own opinion, nothing matters if I cannot verify anything I am involved with. If I cannot, then I put it aside as it may be verified later but never use it until I find comfirmation.

4. Your fears if any.

There should not be any fear at all as this seems to be a natural state. It is one also that we are wanting to be involved with so fear is not part of this.

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Post by Aghrab on 01.07.08 11:02

[/quote]Your question indicates that you possibly might have experience in OBE techniques. How successful have you become with your attempts to leave your body and, at this point, how much control would you say you how have in your travels?[/quote]

Hello Maxx, and welcome to the community.

Good question. I believe if any of my attempts of astral travel were successful, and not just my mind playing tricks, as it usually happens when imagination takes over, my control over the experience is not yet strong enough. Only practice makes such things perfect.

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Post by Maxx on 01.07.08 11:18

Dear Aghrab,

Thank you for the kind welcome.

Your mention of control, "my control over the experience is not yet strong enough" is the item I feel I have most need of. Please do not think I am one to present myself as being an authority in OBE. I do not even begin to register on the meter as one of any knowledge in the field and consider myself a novice or beginner. But what you have brought to light is a valuble factor in control by being able to awaken within the dream and realize that one is dreaming and then decide to change things within that dream. Also, I place value upon verification of anything I see or find in night work. That way I tear apart the mind playing tricks.

Also, might I ask a question of you since I find your line of questioning one of deep insight from your other posts.

What is your view of the difference between OBE or astral projection and remote viewing?

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Post by Aghrab on 02.07.08 1:22

Hello again, Maxx.

Again, a good question. If I have experienced conscious OBE (out of body experience) throughout my practices, and again, not just the mind playing it's tricks, I tend to compare OBE to a 'light sleep', where I am still quite aware of my surrounding in my physical body. As for astral projection, I find it to be more dynamic and quite different from OBE, certainly. I believe with enough Will and focus, during astral projection, I may just be able to increase my control over the experience. I, however, rarely realize, in a dream, that I am dreaming, to be able to control the experience or to convert it into an astral projection.

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Post by Maxx on 02.07.08 8:57

Thank you, Aghrab, for your insight. I have sat here thinking in regard to your answer and my thoughts took me back to my first time leaving my body. I found myself standing in the small space between my bed and wall in my bedroom. I thought that rather strange as the space I was now standing in seemed about 4 feet and opened. Not an inch or two as supposed. I looked across the room at the clock and found how strange I could not tell the time as there were no hands showing on that clock. Then out of no place I heard a voice that said there is no such thing as time here. Thinking that space and time are really different today, what is going on here. I was startled and wondered who's voice spoke to me. Then looking around the room I saw myself lying in the bed.......and that really startled me and that drew me back into my body. I have never seen any cord in any of my travels as others speak of and I do not have any shaking or vibrations of the body when leaving as most others do.

Based on what the teachers of projection tell us in books and such, that every night we sleep, we are out of our body whether we remember or not. I recall my mother, very excited, called on the phone and told me that she was sitting and watching tv late one night in a lounge chair. She was startled when I walked into the room in front of her. I lived 600 miles away at the time. I had a beautiful rose in my hand and I reached out to give it to her and then as she reached out to take it........I disappeared from in front of her. She commented that it was the most beautiful rose she had ever seen. The reason I am relating this to you is that.......I did not remember it at all. Although other times I do remember vistiing her. It has now become a joke between us when she calls and tells me.....you have been out visiting me again. LOL.

I offer this as a possible question for others to address whether we all travel out of our body each night as we sleep? If so, we are all doing even much better than we thought in our attempt to experience astral projection. All we need do is be able to remember so of those experiences.

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Post by Aghrab on 02.07.08 10:07

It is said that during sleep each night, our energy bodies (also known as 'vitality sheath' or 'etheric body') is put to 'charge', where it expands and opens in order to accumulate and store energy. When expanded, our chakras flow in power in the form of etheric matter, into our energy body. It is also said that our energy bodies can only do this during sleep, in its expanded state. While this process of 'recharging' is taking place, our astral body then separates and tunes into the astral dimension where it can experience dreams... Or create them.

However, if this process of separation is done consciously, or you become aware of it, there is a possibility to take control over it, where it can then become OBE (out of body experience), lucid dream, astral projection etc.

Maxx, you also said "We all travel out of our body each night as we sleep? If so, we are all doing even much better than we thought in our attempt to experience astral projection." Well, we do travel out of our bodies during sleep, however, the obstacles keeping us from actually "doing better at astral projection during sleep" are, I believe, three things. One is whether or not we can become aware of the separation that occurs during sleep. The second is if we can take control over the experience after the separation, which then connects to the third obstacle, which is if we can identify 'what' it is we want to experience, and how we can accomplish it. Remembering the experience is not just an obstacle, it is one of the main abilities that must be practised and worked on. Otherwise, what is the point if you cannot remember or recall your experience?

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Post by Maxx on 02.07.08 10:46

Your words are very insightful, Aghrab. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk with me.

Your last sentence I must ask you to consider the fact that I am at present in belief that the astral body or out of body, is the real body. I believe it is our natural state. Therefore, our memory bank should be there all the time instead of here (which it is not as we all know). This is the part that we are trying to work on by our ability to remember. The recharging of our astral body each night from our physical (our battery, so to speak) is a process that we have to be a part of. I think most of us think the physical is the real part of us but I believe, now, that the real "us" is the astral.

Also, I find most of my activity takes place in the last REM activity of the night just before waking for the day. One might be able to set the alarm an hour earlier and get up for a few minutes and then go back to bed and focus on the point one wishes to travel to. Since I find that Lifeforce is mental, when I want to instantly go to another place in the astral, we are immediately there. If we can get control of the real me/you/us and realize where that is located at all times, and this was what you referred to in your other post, I suspect more control we can activate over this entire process. Like, sending the real me/you/us out of our body a head of us to view what is around the corner as we walk a head of us. This is somewhat the practice session of the Russian chess players. They are blindfolded early on in their practice and play this way to develop the ability to see the opponents move even with their eyes closed.

Thank you for your interactions. I knew you had vast knowledge in this area because of the way you formed your questions from the other posts.
Please give us more of your knowledge so we might learn from you. I know you are a private person, but your misson is to help others here.

I love this forum

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Post by Azrael on 03.01.10 13:35

I have been working at consciously astral projecting, i have come close ... I believe through time and patience when my mind and body is ready I will see the realms of the Astral, I will expand my consciousness... it is the greatest thing to achieve, once achieved...
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Post by RudraShiva on 04.01.10 6:44

Hello Azrael, try this:

Everytime you go to sleep, try some energy work. Stimulate your chakras/shen centers, with a special emphasis on your "third eye". Then go to sleep...

You could do this not in the night, but on a different time, when you are less tired. I usually do it during my "siesta", after lunch, around 4:00 pm or 4:30 pm.

Tell me if after doing this kind of work you had lucid dreams, astral projections or if your dreams were just more intense than usual.

If you have doubts about how to stimulate your astral/etheric body, Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce will be a great help.
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Post by ElizabethBathory on 04.01.10 7:17

So you want to have an out-of-body experience at will? Personally, I feel as though my astral self and my physical self are very closely linked, and separating them is not something I like....I usually try to stop it. When they separate is always when I start seeing everything as energy. What I mean by that is that I start seeing the walls of my room as waves of energy. The bed I am lying on is just particles of matter, everything I see and feel is just my interpretation of it. Soon I begin to feel like I am lying in space, and then it begins to happen. So uh try that....
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Post by ElizabethBathory on 04.01.10 7:51

By the way, this definitely works. I just tried it out, only I didn't stop. It turned into a sort of lucid dream. I went downstairs and outside... I was walking around. I got bored and jumped up and started flying... I decided to visit the statue of liberty? (lol)
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Post by Ella Moor on 05.01.10 19:19

Well I my self know the instructions of astral projections but In a way I am kinda scared to try it out.I have a fear that maybe I wont find my way back to my body and plus I do not know how to get into your body (Like to get back) I am sometimes so scared of not being able to return to your body. but you know maybe one day I will overcome my fears and try to astral project.you know sometimes I think that while I am astral projection I can help many people Like make them feel like I am there Like help those that need help and try to look more into my self.People say that those that are in comas are like astral projecting that if you go to the place where they are located you can talk to them,and i dream about helping them in some way.Plus people say that while you astral project you see things like paranormal things you know and that once your floating out of your body that your most true fears overcome you this is one of the reason that I haven't tried it yet because I am so scared to see something that I am scared of.
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Post by Matttt on 06.01.14 23:37

I've recently been working on Third Eye awakening and Astral projection and I haven't seen it mentioned any of these post, but has anyone else felt the sensation that their entire body is vibrating and tingling while attempting to Astral project?
I don't believe I've been able to consciously project uet
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Post by Matttt on 06.01.14 23:38

Yet* but I have been practicing every day and reach the vibrations more quickly each time.
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