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Post by xix on 17.12.19 9:19

In Asetian Bible I've found the two description of soul which seem quite ambiguous for me. The first fragment seems to claim that Ba is indestructible, but the second states that it is destructible.

Fragment 2 (chapter 'Subtle Body'):
"It can be wounded and destroyed, but also has the ability to become eternal, being that not a birthright, but a conquerable condition."

Fragment 2 (chapter 'Subtle Body'):
"It can be wounded and destroyed, but also has the ability to become eternal, being that not a birthright, but a conquerabke cindition."

So am I right saying that: human body isn't immortal (not only In spiritual sense: past lives recollection; it can truly die) and Asetian is, also both can be wounded and destroyed.

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Post by Rhea Kaye on 17.12.19 9:51

It's starting to feel like your entire purpose here is in trying to find discrepancies within the AB. 
If you actually read clearly and studied it, it would be apparent what is meant. 
Anyway, 
What is meant by that passage is that the human subtle body can be wounded and destroyed, and must conquer immortality. 
The Asetian soul is immortal and cannot be destroyed.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 17.12.19 10:09

What's fragment 1?
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Post by xix on 17.12.19 12:59

Fragment 1 (chapter 'Immortality'):
"The vampiric soul not only can't be destroyed or killed, as it does not suffer any aging over time, unlike the human souls."

Sorry, I see too much error checking doesn't do good too.

So I guess that would support it, Rhea Kaye.

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Post by xix on 17.12.19 13:02

Maybe I don't understanding it, because I am confusing Ba, subtle body, essence and soul.

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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 24.12.19 2:27

I'll have to read this in a greater context with my own books. But the general understanding within Asetianism is that the soul of an Asetian is immortal, eternal, but that of a human is perishable. I'm not sure I agree with that notion, however, or am very skeptical of it - that'd perhaps be one of the things I don't agree with so much in Asetianism, considering myself a student of the path. If the fragment number 2 (which was actually the first fragment you shared) referred to the human Ba, I'd say, yes, I agree perhaps with that notion. It holds the possibility of becoming eternal. I'm not sure if what they referred to as a conquerable condition was the initiation of Khenmet or not, but I believe that humans can ascend to immortality. Great sages, saints, yogis and mystics show this. But, on the other end, I also believe they have >>conquered<< immortality and that it isn't a birthright or a given right but something hard fought and striven for in sadhana or spiritual practice. I have a complex view of human mortality/immortality. Actually "human immortality" transcends the human(-animal) level altogether and goes to their divine essence or Self, which is called as Pure Consciousness in certain enlightenment traditions. In Hinduism and yoga, it is called as Atma and Brahma; Atman the individual soul and Brahman the world soul or god. Atman is of the same nature as Brahman, like an "ocean in a drop" that is in the ocean and becomes the ocean. That is not meant to make direct logical sense. Their same nature, however, is sat-chit-ananda; truth (sat), consciousness/existence (chit) and bliss (ananda).
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 24.12.19 2:39

Just my divergent view but perhaps not entirerly - if similar implications were had in the Asetian Bible.

I adopt portions of Hinduism as spiritual technology. Much credit is due. However, it's not a fixed or rigid system.
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Post by Maxx on 24.12.19 9:10

What if.......   the different dimensions attained indicated immortality or still seeking immortality?

Breaking all this down to very simple terms rather than applying descriptions from centuries and various writing styles and cultures which makes it sound much more difficult than it actually is.

Ascended Masters are in a higher dimension than those that are human and just newly passed over to the other side.  That new human moving into another area so easily preps and goes back to school before coming back into this area to have another go at it.  They did not have any interest in working on higher attainment in life but just on specifics and experiences that help in a greater overall refinement.  That terminology immortal could be applied to one in a higher dimension that does not have to return to this universal setting.  (In my view humans and vampires all have an immortal soul if everything is connected and is from the same source).

Say the ascended Masters being in that higher realm can come down into lower vibrating dimensions to aid or help or instruct as need be, but the human cannot ascend to that higher dimension by going up the ladder as they have not yet attained their "Higher Union Card" yet.  But eventually, all will obtain it and by taking more time to accomplish that with many possible setbacks.  But that immortal (so-called) being can watch or help at any time by descending down the ladder......(Maybe Jacobs Ladder is an illustration).  Ha.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth on 27.12.19 4:03

Indeed, I agree. This concurs with my own understanding. It resonates with me. But this terminology used above is easier for me considering I've studied a bit of those systems.
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