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Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Victor on 27.01.10 15:15

Recently on his official account, Master Luis Marques tweeted a small quote that only can be read inverted, if you literally twist your head upside down.

Here is the original text that he shared:

slɐʇɹoɯ ɟo ƃuıpuɐʇsɹǝpun pǝʇɹǝʌuı ǝɥʇ uo ʎʇıɹnd sʇı sǝɔɐɹqɯǝ puɐ uoıʇdǝɔɹǝd sǝʌıǝɔǝp ʎʇılɐǝɹ ǝɹǝɥʍ ɯlɐǝɹ pǝʇsıʍʇ ɐ sı ɥʇnɹʇ ɟo ɯopƃuıʞ ǝɥʇ

What are your own interpretations of his words in this small text?

Source: http://twitter.com/LuisMarques/
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Daniel09 on 27.01.10 18:51

Hm... well, to begin, it is upside-down, meaning that even the straightforward meanings could be reversed. "uoıʇdǝɔɹǝd sǝʌıǝɔǝp ʎʇılɐǝɹ"... So, perception would be tricked by reality... and only seems pure by mortals, who have it all upside-down. So... the truth is the opposite of what any normal person would expect or understand. Reality is not static, not pure. It is chaotic and filled with confusion and darkness, as well as light. "ɯlɐǝɹ pǝʇsıʍʇ ɐ sı ɥʇnɹʇ"... the truth both makes sense and doesn't make sense. It is right and it is wrong. True understanding can only be achieved through knowing that reality changes, and no truth is static. Only mortals think the world is the same for everyone. It's inverted, because the world is experienced differently for everyone....

Well, that's all the speculation I care to work out at the moment. A wonderful quote. Very symbolic in appearance and meaning. Luckily I learned to read upside down when I was a child, so I had no difficulties.
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Syrianeh on 28.01.10 2:03

The phrase ends: "on the inverted understanding of mortals". I think Luis Marques chose to use inverted characters so that anyone reading it would see it inverted, that is, as a mortal would. This is symbolic for how humans see / interpret words of wisdom and truth that are beyond their mundane mental planes.
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Jonathan on 28.01.10 16:21

Thanks for bringing this up, Victor, and nice posts from both Daniel and Syrianeh. I loved reading how they interpreted these mysterious words from Luis Marques. We should do this more often together, it is a nice mental and spiritual exercise.

I have to say I agree with both of you. Most of all this quote, to me, expresses human blindness. How humans never see things in a pure way, but always twisted and inverted, to fulfill their own egos and wishes. Humans, unlike Asetians, are deeply self-centered, and that makes them see the world and life in a fake way. I believe that vampires, most particularly in the case of Asetians, can see the world and life in a much deeper way, they can see what other beings cannot, almost like the big picture instead of just the small different parts that humans can grasp. They can see the hidden truth that Luis Marques talks about. Just like the Asetian tradition that will only unveil its secrets, truths and beauty to the worthy, because for everyone else, it will always be a twisted and inverted reality...
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by ElizabethBathory on 29.01.10 11:54

Reminds me of when some1 (amazing) once told me "the truth is upside down."
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Nebibi on 29.01.10 15:24

I immediately thought of a parallel between the dark mark's position on the wrist and the inverted words.

The fact that the Asetian Dark Mark is tattooed facing Asetian. That way the Mark is always seen perfectly by the Asetian but inverted by the common world.

It is small parallel that I saw, probably nothing, but I just thought I would post it.
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Daniel09 on 29.01.10 20:15

ivy wrote:I immediately thought of a parallel between the dark mark's position on the wrist and the inverted words.

The fact that the Asetian Dark Mark is tattooed facing Asetian. That way the Mark is always seen perfectly by the Asetian but inverted by the common world.

It is small parallel that I saw, probably nothing, but I just thought I would post it.

I find that to be a very important observation, and I'm amazed I didn't see the connection lol. Thanks for noticing; it adds that much more scope to the quote.
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Jonathan on 30.01.10 8:39

I agree, thanks for pointing that out Ivy, it is an interesting connection.
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by SetAzEl on 05.02.10 9:42

ivy wrote:I immediately thought of a parallel between the dark mark's position on the wrist and the inverted words.

The fact that the Asetian Dark Mark is tattooed facing Asetian. That way the Mark is always seen perfectly by the Asetian but inverted by the common world.

It is small parallel that I saw, probably nothing, but I just thought I would post it.

Makes sense to me......for those who evolved enough the words are not inverted and for those of the lesser it is inverted. I like your observation.
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Nebibi on 08.02.10 8:28

Thank you SetAzEl.
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Aghrab on 27.02.10 22:45

The Dark Mark was the first thing that entered my thoughts when I came across that particular quote by Luis Marques. "The concept behind the meaning of his words are only to be fully understood by their own kind, just like the concept and secrets behind their divine Dark Mark", was what I thought.

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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Am I real on 02.10.10 10:34

I am new to this site and yet it seems to answer many different aspects for me from the beginning to a higher plane I haven't read you're bible as I find no pleasure in books and this is most properly one of my down falls

The upside down writing is one of my basic skill I don't mean to make this about me or neither to intrude but it is your society that may be able to help me I have made a post asking if anyone understands me I would appreciate it if you could reply thank you for you time

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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Serkhem on 18.02.12 0:01

Completely agree with the truth behind the inverted words, and more so that,its but too easy but to play with the perception of human beings.An other kin being can play around with the perception of human kind very easily if he learns and masters a few basic laws which the human society operates in.
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Bella Donna on 10.06.12 5:04

When I was younger I study and practiced Tantra.

By my studies I learned one thing which we can adapt to all religious studies. Almost all "traditional" religious teachings no matter are they old Indian Tantra texts, writings of the Bible or old Egyptian scriptures has usually two levels. Exoteric and esoteric. In all traditional texts we can see first the word and what is says. This is exoteric teaching. You can take Biblle and read some story from it. This common understand of the word is the usual way how for example normal Christians and Muslims study their texts.

These texts how ever have also inner esoteric meaning this we could call with the term "symbolic meaning" and if student of religion is enlightened enough he starts to see all these stories more symbolic way.

I am now speculating but I think this is what the Luis Marques here tries to explain. Reality is like the mirror of our mind and our experience of the world is creation of the mind. For that reason the one who studies esoteric truths should be able to see behind the words, not just what the word says in common meaning but what is the symbolic meaning of the word which is the key to immortality and wisdom!
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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Maxx on 10.06.12 7:18

I agree with your assessment and taking it a litter further, I will mention the site of Dr. Barbara Thiering and her efforts have been dubbed the Pesher technique. This is how she views the Christian early writings.

http://www.peshertechnique.infinitesoulutions.com/index.html

It is a very interesting way of looking at the entire writing of the Christian Bible.

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Re: Master Luis Marques' inverted words.

Post by Nebibi on 10.06.12 10:32

Reversed Ankh reversed words....correlation?
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Post by ChristinCP on 10.09.12 18:09

Nebibi wrote:I immediately thought of a parallel between the dark mark's position on the wrist and the inverted words.

The fact that the Asetian Dark Mark is tattooed facing Asetian. That way the Mark is always seen perfectly by the Asetian but inverted by the common world.

It is small parallel that I saw, probably nothing, but I just thought I would post it.


This just made me think of how when I was little (and now) I always wear my hand/arm jewelry facing me. I mention being younger because I remember when I first encountered other people and how they instinctively thought their hand/arm jewelry should be worn facing out. Associations are a fun thing - a way to remember more effortlessly.

I am also a Harry Potter dork (SO much symbolism there) and I find the Death Eaters' parallels striking.
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