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Post by Gargoyle 21.11.15 18:00

Greetings. Even before I was an Asetianist I have had an interest in the Egyptian moon god Khonsu. I have invoked his energies and he has helped me through many troubles. After becoming an Asetianist I have felt an even stronger pull towards the entity. I now see him as a vampiric being. I am just curious to know any of your experiences with Khonsu and any information anyone has on him is appreciated. I have my own theories and developed my own knowledge on the god, but am interested to see any parallels or synchronicities anyone here has to offer. Em Hotep. Faraoh Vampire Bat
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Post by Jonathan 21.11.15 18:38

There seems to be a general consensus that Khonsu was a powerful Asetian who lived during the Sep Tepy, as it happened with many other Asetians and Sethians of that time they later became seen as deity. There are also some who speculate that Khonsu might be a past reincarnation of Luis Marques, the most iconic Asetian Master of our time, however those are only speculations as no one can say for sure. I even read theories from those who see him as an embodiment of Horus due to his teachings so there are many different opinions.

What is your view about it?
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Post by Gargoyle 22.11.15 15:52

Interesting theories Jonathan, thank you. I never thought of Khonsu as an Asetian, but that is definitely plausible. I simply thought of him as an entity, such as Aset and Horus. Like Anubis, he is on the side of the Trinity (Osiris, Isis, Horus) as opposed to Set. I saw him as a student of Thoth also. There is a lot of information I could convey but I will leave it at that for now. Either way he is definitely vampiric and has assisted me in many ways.
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Post by Kalb 29.11.15 2:09

The moon is very important in Asetianism, AB is clear about that, but, Prince Khonsu is not the god of Moon. Thoth is.
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Post by Nightshade 29.11.15 2:14

Actually I believe both Thoth and Khonsu are connected with the dark powers of the Moon.
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Post by Gargoyle 29.11.15 10:38

I agree that Thoth represents the moon, but it is also very clear that Khonsu is also connected to the moon, mostly the crescent.
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Post by Kalb 13.12.15 2:22

Nightshade: All vampires of the Serpent lineage do a great job with the energies of the moon. Especial the Elders. There is a great example in the Middle Pillar of Asetian tree of Life.
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Post by Gargoyle 03.05.16 23:58

After a few long months studying Asetianism and the words of Luis Marques I can definitely see why he is believed by some to be the embodiment of Horus. He is a leader, a Master. It makes sense. Also, I agree with Kalb and believe most if not all Asetians have a deep connection with the Moon. It is strange the parallels between Khonsu and Horus. Maybe different incarnations of the same being or simply just similar. I have so many questions...
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Post by Minaethiel 04.05.16 18:00

I can offer an archaeologist's perspective on some of these things...

One of the major things that we see a lot in Egypt is the transfer of power from one location to another. The Old Kingdom, Middle Kingdom, New Kingdom etc - represent periods of relative stability. There's one Pharaoh, ruler of both Upper (south) and Lower (north) Egypt. But in the times in between, the Intermediate Periods, everything gets sort of chaotic.

The worshp of Khonsu is most particularly associated with Thebes, a really important city in Ancient Egypt. In the Old Kingdom it's the capital for one of the counties; in the First Intermediate Period, it's the location from which the Eleventh Dynasty plot to bring down the existing king; it becomes the capital of all Egypt in the Thirteenth; it loses it, it's restored; capital gets moved to Amarna, then back to Thebes - etc.

Wherever the capital is, the religion follows. When the religion moves, it assimilates and swallows up existing regional cults and keeps going. Khonsu seems to have originated in Thebes. When the religion moves there, he replace the son of Amun (later Amun-Ra) and Mut (later Hathor). His imagery is very similar to Horus-the-Child, in that he is associated with the hawk, always depicted as a child.

Horus-the-Child occurs in later Egypt (previously he was the brother of Isis and Osiris, not their son) and may be an assimilation/ evolution of the Amun-Ra, Mut, Khonsu triad (we are pretty sure that Mut-Hathor-Isis is one and the same in the New Kingdom).

Regarding Horus/ Khonsu as a vampiric entity, I can say that there is a possibility that Horus-the-Child may be associated with Amsu-Horus, a (possibly child) figure who dies but is reborn as the Livng King. (There are always two Kings, the Dead King (Osiris) and the Living). Amsu-Horus literally pulls himself out of his tomb, fulfiling a certain vampiric mythos.

If Khonsu/ Horus are over-written versions of each other, this may give Khonsu a vampiric link.

Khonsu/Thoth is a bit different; they are both baboons, and actually, no one can agree whether baboons are lunar (noctural by nature) or solar (because their screeching when the sun rises emulates the dawn rites of certain priestes). Fun fact though, early-Horus is said to be the sky, and that the sun and moon were both his eyes. That may account for Khonsu frequently being depicted with the sun/crescent moon crown.

Okay, this turned into an essay. I don't know if any of this is helpful. But bear in mind that the roles of the Egyptian gods fluctuated tremendously over the thousands of years that the Pharaohs reigned. They overlap and they over-write each other, and a lot of it just depends on where you lived and in what time period.

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Post by Maxx 04.05.16 19:03

Very interesting regarding the city location moving the base religious movement of a particular being around over time.  Never looked at it that way.
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Post by Gargoyle 05.05.16 0:36

Minaethiel, thank you for that. You gave a great perspective on the subject. I have learned a lot and will meditate on this then get back to you all. This subject interests me greatly.
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