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Post by Vertigo on 25.03.09 16:04

Do you guys use magick?

I mean...99% of you are vampire brothers and sisters, but how many of you use/study magick?

Then which paths do you walk?

And then the final question...how many use wands?
I read in the AB that Wands are broadly used by Asetians to work with energy.


A thought that came up today.



My skeptical nature made it hard for me to use magick in the beginning...

But now I walk several paths myself. ^^


So tell me what your doing in your room when nobody is watching you. tongue
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Daniel09 on 25.03.09 18:50

I made a wand by accident some time ago, that I recently found again. It increases my energy sensing and seeing abilities by a good amount. I mean, I guess you could call it a wand. It's fashioned from a straight, slightly sun-bleached stick with a small paperclip, leaf, and rock wedged on it.

In fact, here's a picture I just took of it:
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Victor on 28.03.09 15:01

Wanding is a very advanced form of magick. It was developed and mastered by the Asetians in the Sep Tepy, later being used by Witches in their secretive practices. In modern days, many people confuse the real art of wanding, which is related with the direct usage of energy manipulation, with the usage of wands in ritual. Both are highly different approaches and techniques. True wanding, in direct energy manipulation, in the way the Asetians use it, is far from the reach of most of us, taking a profound knowledge of metaphysics and intense training with an experienced Master.
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Post by Ankhhape on 28.03.09 15:27

Asetian wanding seems to have been already a lost Art by the time Moses uses his to perform magick, which had been performed for centuries before him by Egyptians.

Though I find it hard to swallow that Moses' magick could be greater than a Kemetic Priest's . . . but hey, what were they gonna say . . . "Moses got his ass kicked by an Egyptian?"
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Malek on 28.03.09 15:50

Ankhhape wrote:
Though I find it hard to swallow that Moses' magick could be greater than a Kemetic Priest's . . . but hey, what were they gonna say . . . "Moses got his ass kicked by an Egyptian?"

Keep in mind who purportedly is telling us the story of the exodus...
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Ankhhape on 28.03.09 16:02

That is for certain Malek

Seth, who becomes the god of magicians, was invoked under the name of Io, which is Egyptian for 'ass'. Through closeness of this Io / Iao to Iahve (Tetragrammaton), Seth was soon assimilated to the God of the Jews.

When you think of the sound a mule / ass makes it is very close to this Judiac word for God IAOU

I see this as further proof of the Abrahamic religions as Sethian influenced and diluted Egyptian ideas and the true Adversary of Man
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Hellen on 28.03.09 16:43

who is the Pharaoh in the time of Joseph ? Akenathen ?
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Syrianeh on 28.03.09 17:41

As someone who has a lot left to learn, I haven't yet enough theory at my disposal. But I find that, the more I learn about magic, the more I realize how I use certain techniques, albeit basic, naturally.

I do not use wands, as I am at the time practising on tendrils and using them to drive energy currents back and forth. I also have become quite sensitive to the emotions and minds of people around me, especially after feeding.

As to larger endeavours, I am starting on a series of practices involving the laws of attraction and Will. I look forward to taking myself enough steps further so that I can use wands successfully.
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Shadwe on 28.03.09 22:45

Malek wrote:
Ankhhape wrote:
Though I find it hard to swallow
that Moses' magick could be greater than a Kemetic Priest's . . . but
hey, what were they gonna say . . . "Moses got his ass kicked by an
Egyptian?"

Keep in mind who purportedly is telling us the story of the exodus...

Well... if you think about it IF Moses was indeed brought up as a
prince it would make sense he would pack a punch... I am sure he was
probably at least slightly knowledgeable in such arts... talk about
abuse of your knowledge o.O;

...I myself have found that working with what I guess could be called
threads that seem to hold everything together to inflict alot of change if you
know how to pull them just right... if that's what you'd call it... I don't know... doesn't seem most people are even able to notice them, might be in my head ^^;
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Aghrab on 30.04.09 12:51

Laiko Su Katara wrote:I mean...99% of you are vampire brothers and sisters, but how many of you use/study magick?

Where did you hear that from?

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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Victor on 30.04.09 19:25

Obviously, any truly committed Vampire (and I would say evolved) has a deep understanding of magick, being a determined scholar of the Occult.
Does anyone disagree?
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Post by Aghrab on 30.04.09 20:55

Victor wrote:Obviously, any truly committed Vampire (and I would say evolved) has a deep understanding of magick, being a determined scholar of the Occult.
Does anyone disagree?

Victor, what I asked is where he heard “99% of you are vampire brothers and sisters” from... This means that we are all vampires.

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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Vertigo on 01.05.09 5:23

Aghrab wrote:
Victor wrote:Obviously, any truly committed Vampire (and I would say evolved) has a deep understanding of magick, being a determined scholar of the Occult.
Does anyone disagree?

Victor, what I asked is where he heard “99% of you are vampire brothers and sisters” from... This means that we are all vampires.

Aghrab

Well, it was actually just an generalize thing.

I dont know how many of you are vampires, I just thought most of you are.

Then I just want to ask how many here use magic and wands. Mad
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Vertigo on 01.05.09 5:24

Laiko Su Katara wrote:
Well, it was actually just an generalize thing.

I dont know how many of you are vampires, I just thought most of you are.

Then I just want to ask how many here use magic and wands. Mad

Sorry for the double post, but since it doesnt seem to exist any "edit" button...

Forget the emoticon at the end, dont want you to misunderstand the message. >.<
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Gilded on 01.05.09 10:34

Laiko, don't worry about your doubt. Smile I believe it was a good thing Aghrab pointed it out. I think people who have been here for long don't wish for others to believe in misleading information, which sometimes goes against evolution and learning within the vampire community. We should all help eachother out!
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Jonathan on 02.05.09 12:10

I believe that many people in here are not Vampires, Laiko. But the forum is not only for Vampires, I believe anyone noticed that by now. However, I do believe that nearly everyone, if not all, are into magick and the occult. Ones more than others, but we all study magick in our own ways and, in most cases, with the aid of the Asetians, particularly the words of Luis Marques.
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Phoenix on 02.05.09 13:41

I concur with Jonathan's post. During my short time on the forum, I have the impression that "vampirism" is not the essence of the VF (no offense to our good administrator or those who believe it is the essence). It seems we are a disparate group following our own metaphysical paths, with a common theme of a deep attraction to Asetianism.
This is going off the wand thread, but I sense that while Asetians are vampiric, there is so much more to what they are and can offer that focusing on vampirism is like looking at a tree and missing the forest.
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Vertigo on 02.05.09 15:20

Phoenix wrote:I concur with Jonathan's post. During my short time on the forum, I have the impression that "vampirism" is not the essence of the VF (no offense to our good administrator or those who believe it is the essence). It seems we are a disparate group following our own metaphysical paths, with a common theme of a deep attraction to Asetianism.
This is going off the wand thread, but I sense that while Asetians are vampiric, there is so much more to what they are and can offer that focusing on vampirism is like looking at a tree and missing the forest.

I dont know why, but I never think of the Asetians as vampires.

Nah, I cant say who is and who is not a vampire on this board.
I just thought most here were vamps. :/


Back on topic, I find wanding very interesting for energy direction.

I make my own wands and wanding is one of the things ive put under the magnifier.

Maybe I can upload the picture of one of my prototypes tomorow. Smile

For me a wand is not just a tool or a stick with some bling on.
For me a wand have the same value as the katana have for the samurai.
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Victor on 02.05.09 16:42

Phoenix wrote:This is going off the wand thread, but I sense that while Asetians are vampiric, there is so much more to what they are and can offer that focusing on vampirism is like looking at a tree and missing the forest.
That is very well put. Takes a deeper understanding of Asetianism to see things under that perspective. Many people spends too much time thinking on how Asetians are Vampires, when in fact, Vampirism is just a small part of what they are and represent. They may be Vampires, sure. They even are the first born Vampires in history, but that is not the core of what they are. Being an Asetian means far more than their relationship with Vampirism... goes far deeper, and that is what most of the knowledge seeker must study.
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Re: Wanding and magick

Post by Vertigo on 03.05.09 13:55

My current wand.
Dont think its so traditional. >.>



Its made for looks and to practice movement.
I want to make a proper wand soon, with an amplifier and catalyst.
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Post by Dreamer on 03.05.09 16:23

Interesting, what type of wood is it?
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Post by Vertigo on 04.05.09 1:53

Dreamer wrote:Interesting, what type of wood is it?

Scots Pine.
Im pretty limited to it until I can find a place where I can buy other wood. :/
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